Aldridge MRI as knee still hurts and some notes from todays practice

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  1. blazerboy30

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    Why don't you start posting some data or stats to back up your stance instead of name-calling and trying to use the "it's common sense" argument.
     
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    Aldridge hasn't had two MRI's in the past month or so and he has said he's dead tired multiple times. He had one tweet that said he just woke up and that his body felt like it had been "run over by a car".

    Sorry, but yes, common sense applies here. Shame you don't have any.
     
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    Clearly you haven't trained for a high level athletically. Elite athletes train and compete at a high level multiple times a day. Of course he is tired. Common sense applies here.

    I'm not saying LA shouldn't get more rest, but you can't produce any data to back up your argument, yet you are quick to attack posters.
     
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    Jordan is, as is Chamberlain (whose stats you also posted). Jordan was also a perimeter player, so using him is a flawed comparison anyway. Duncan hasn't averaged 40 mpg in nearly a decade, and it should be noted that after 3 seasons of 38+ mpg, he began to miss games (under 70 games the next two seasons) and have his minutes reduced. Kevin Garnett is the only example you provided that really supports your position, and he is widely considered a physical freak.

    Finally, Aldridge not only averaged over 40 mpg in January, but has averaged 42 mpg in February, which is higher than any of the last-3-decades examples you gave. I can name one post player who averaged 42+ mpg over a season in the past 30 years. It isn't done anymore because the game has changed from the days when that was common.
     
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    First part of your post is pointless.

    Two MRI's and Aldridge saying he's dead tired isn't enough for you? What exactly are you waiting for to start dialing back his minutes? Wait until he's forced to sit out and then say "oh, maybe there's a problem here"?

    It's not fucking rocket science. Some you people I swear.....
     
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    Maybe you should stop responding to me then and do us both a favor
     
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    you'd really have any issue with Aldridge's career arc with going similarly to Duncan's??? Seriously? I've looked back at his yearly stats like 4 times now and just can't believe you think you've got any argument. I'm fine with stepping LA's minutes down as he gets older, but Timmy did average over 5 more MPG then LA his first 5 seasons and was always the primary focus of his team's offense. Pretty sure that this year (just like the first 4) LA will still average less minutes then TD did in his 5th season when both were/are 25. It also bears mention that Timmy played 4 years of big time college ball to LA's 2.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=1&p1=aldrila01&y1=2011&p2=duncati01&y2=2002

    want to make me a bet worth my time digging through stats on whether I can find a month of play from one of my examples where they averaged at least 42 minutes?

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    Awwww. You can't produce anything to back up your position, and you're so mad. :smiley-bigcry:
     
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    I enjoy reading your thoughts because I like to laugh

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    Lol at you ignoring Aldridge's 2 non-contact injuries

    Unless you want to admit you're dumb(no mods, I'm not saying that) then you're obviously trolling with this post. I don't waste my time on trolls.
     
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    Aldridge is wearing down right before your eyes and you'd rather research players that played 30 years ago.

    That makes me laugh
     
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    prior to this season Aldridge was primarily a perimeter player on offense. He certainly didn't slash to the hoop (taking hard falls) like MJ regularly did early in the early part of his career. I'd argue that his style of play is actually less taxing on the body then MJ's was... anyone else want to weigh in on this question?

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    hyperbole pulled straight from the ass with nothing to back it up but more inane cackling

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    clean it up guys or take it to PMs
     
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    Yet you can't deny that Aldridge is wearing down right before your eyes. I clearly have no leg to stand on here :crazy:

    Wait...what's that? MJ did it? That must mean it's okay for everyone!

    How can I deny this substantial evidence that's been brought before me?!?!?!

    It must mean Aldridge's injuries are fake
     
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    But we're not talking about Aldridge from prior seasons. We're talking about Aldridge from this season, who plays like a true power forward.

    If I believed for a moment that Aldridge were as skilled, talented, or intelligent as Duncan, then I might believe that his career would have a slight chance of following the same arc as Duncan's. However, that's not the point. The point was that you were holding Duncan up as an example of an all-time great who averaged big minutes over multiple seasons as evidence that we should not be concerned about Aldridge doing the same. The fact is that after doing so, he began to experience injury issues at the age of 27. With Aldridge already having missed three times as many games due to injury over his first seasons than Duncan did over his first six--and that in a less demanding role--it would seem reasonable to be concerned about the impact that big minutes might have on Aldridge's durability, especially considering his new-found role.


    No, because that would mean nothing to me. Examples of power forwards who shot 40% from 3 would not convince me that LA should. Examples of power forwards who won 50+ games while playing little to no defense would not convince me that LA should. And examples of power forwards who averaged 42+ mpg over the course of a month would not convince me that LA should either.
     
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    Let's assume that you are right, and reducing LA's minutes would reduce his chance of injury.

    What do you reduce his minutes to? What is the magic number of minutes that he needs to be playing to avoid injury?
     
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    which I still would argue is less physically taxing then the beating MJ took taking it to the hole. Dude brought it hard

    almost. Team's should always be concerned about the health of their best players. If they sustain a tweak I'm pretty sure the Docs would advise they should be held back to make sure that it subsides. But if they're good to go, 40 minutes of NBA hoops is something that many have proven is fine

    was that due to wear and tear or the luck of the draw? Was MJ worn down when he broke his foot in his 2nd year or was that bad luck. You are drawing conclusions while offering little context

    LA missed 7 games his rookie year to a shoulder surgery in the offseason. Should I be worried about that catching up to him? Pretty sure the other 12 games were to a heart condition that he had surgically corrected and not an injury. Again, nothing I'm worried about in the wear and tear department. He's missed all of 6 games seasons 2-5 so your concerns about his durability seem misplaced

    okay... whatever dude

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