BYU mens basketball team!

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    [video=youtube;lQlIhraqL7o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o[/video]
     
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    Its far too often that we hear about athletes getting away with things because they're 6-9 and lead their team in rebounding. It wasn't too long ago that Syracuse's Eric Devendorf punched a female student in the face and appealed until he got 40 hours of community service as a sanction (downgraded from suspension for the remainder of the academic year as ruled by a University Judicial Board).

    While the OP was quite humorous given the circumstances, its great to see a school remembering that the word student comes first in student-athlete for a reason. Of course, I full expect to see BYU ridiculed for their policies and questioned for the impact on the team that removing Davies will have, especially so close to the NCAA tournament. Its also very interesting to see how this story is making big news, while the Sports Illustrated report about the arrest records of ranked college football teams is pretty much being swept under the rug on ESPN and other sites..
     
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    agoo, repped. His view is exactly right. Athletics for too long has been the tail wagging the university dog.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    yeah whether or not I agree with the school's policies or beliefs... props to them for not letting a star or anyone get away with it because of stature.
     
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    I'm interested to see the responses in parallel with some of these. While not the same situation...
     
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    college basketball players shouldn't have girlfriends.
     
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    I hadn't seen that thread, but if you're signing up to attend or work at a religiously affiliated institution, as long as it is made very clear to you what the honor code is during your recruitment/hiring process, you need to go by it or face the consequences. Davies is from Provo, so I can't imagine any way in which he didn't know about the Honor Code.

    I'll be interested to see when its decided whether or not Davies is allowed to continue attending BYU and play for the team next season.
     
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    Agreed. They should have harems. But to do so they'd have to attend a Mormon scho......... ummmm.......... never mind.
     
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    You think if it was Fredette breaking the Honor Code that this would've been just swept under the rug?
     
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    No, I think the code goes for everyone.
     
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    I doubt it. I work with a guy who went to BYU and this came up today. As he put it, you just don't mess with the honor code, but the University makes it entirely clear to you what the honor code includes. Also, Fredette is a Mormon so the odds of him breaking the code are probably pretty slim.

    And for a bit of context about Davies being removed from the team, its not uncommon for a University to include a sanction that states that someone cannot represent the University in an official capacity. That applies to athletics (varsity and club), but also serving as an officer in campus organizations in cases that I'm familiar with.
     
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    You think Mormons don't have pre-marital sex? lol!
     
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    I think some do, but I think the ones that are seeking out BYU with their honor code, especially ones who could go to other Universities for free to shoot threes, are there because they're looking for a school that meshes with their religious choices. I would be quite surprised if he didn't live by the code. As my co-worker put it, most students there are there because of the honor code.

    Also, found this thread on scout.com. Guess dismissals from teams happen more often than I thought, but we're hearing about this one because BYU is really good at basketball this season. As the BYU grad in the thread put it, students are dismissed for this all the time and most come back the following semester. Apparently Davies can play next season.
     
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    How strict is the code? I know quite a few mormons who don't think anal is considered sex.

    We also don't know who he got outed by, it could be a jealous ex-girlfriend. I think you'd be surprised that there are more players on the basketball team that are 'sinning' than some might think.
     
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    Between having been 18-22 at one point in my life and having worked in higher ed. professionally (and living in residence) for the last five years, I don't think you could tell me anything that would surprise me about the sexual habits of college students. Mormon or otherwise.

    I'm talking about Fredette vs. Davies in this case. There was a thread on St. Bonaventure University forum that I lurk on about Fredette and why SBU didn't recruit him. He didn't consider any college other than BYU because of his Mormon religion. Davies probably picked it because he's from Provo and it gave him a good mix of a chance to play immediately and in the tournament. I think your Mormon athletes, especially ones from outside of Utah who have other options like Fredette, are choosing BYU because of the code.
     
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    Well maybe this will give him time to reflect on his religion. I am also not sure how just banning him for the rest of the season would be "living up to the honor code", shouldn't it be a "one and done" type of thing? One really can't undo losing ones virginity.
     
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    Must we really resort to calling her a slut? Even as a joke.


    Actually though, I wonder how BYU screens out the impure from even entering. Is there a medical exam? An easily forged questionnaire which verifies you've never had sex before? Hmmm.
     
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    me spelling "hawt" like I did invalidates the word "slut". learn the interwebz.
     
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    Mormons be crazy.
     

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