White House Announces Resumption of Military Tribunals at Guantanamo

Keeping Gitmo open and resuming military tribunals.

I applaud this decision by President Obama, and only wish he had come to this understanding at an earlier point of his presidency.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/07/obama-resume-military-trials-guantanamo-source-says/

 

Good. These people have been in political limbo for entirely too long

 

Stupid.

 

They're just normal people. No crazy jihadi super powers or anything. Send 'em to US maximum security prisons for life. What are they going to do, summon a ghoul to bust them out and then suicide bomb a nearby suburb?

The ONLY reason we need a prison outside of the US is so we can do whatever we want to these people. I don't understand why we have to torture them when it can be done naturally through Bubba in the shower room.

 

How was this handled in all previous wars? You know, the ones in which the body count wasn't kept secret by cowards who are hiding what they are doing?

If a war is going to be eternal, it shouldn't be fought.

 

Does that mean domestic courts are unfit to judge on cases of suspected terrorism?

Can you name some of the reasons to keep suspected terrorists out of the domestic court system?

 

Hmmm. Those seem like pretty good reasons.

 

These aren't people that are going back to their families or to live a life in peace. These are true believers who have been shown will return to a life of terrorism. See the shitty part of living for the jihad is that you may have to sacrifice your freedom for the rest of your natural life. Sucks to be them. They'd better hope they're right about Paradise.

 

Yeah a 15-year-old who was captured after a battle. He cries when interviewed, after the years of torture and beatings. He's now 20. What an irretrievable true believer.

Q: How was this handled in previous wars?

A: They were released. Everyone could see that there is no sin in fighting for your country against foreign invaders.

 

This. How these people are covered under the Geneva Convention I can't understand. They hide behind women and children and then ask to be treated like soldiers.

 

Are you talking about the people held at Gitmo?

Because there have been releases. There have been times where they decided that they had no reason for holding them and released them in the outside world after years of being held. I don't think there is any solid proof to say that everyone who has been at Gitmo and then has been let go has gone back to a life of terrorism. Actually, there may be proof to the contrary, with articles about people who DID go back to their families (I think I saw a story on BBC or something once).

While a majority are most likely Jihadists unless our government is super incompetent (can't rule that out), I think your comment is far to general and incorrect in that sense.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/01/13/us-usa-guantanamo-idUSTRE50C5JX20090113

 

Sure, 61 did. Out of how many? Some of them WOULD go and TRY to live a normal life in their country if they were released. Some shouldn't be there in the first place.

 

You're changing the argument. I understand why you're trying to do so. Remember, these are only the people they deemed releasable; these were the Boy Scouts of Gitmo or the people that were actually there by mistake. Now, what happens when they actually release the real maggots? The number goes up a lot higher from 61 and the percentage of those released who go back to jihad increases dramatically.

Let me put it another way: If Barack Obama--a strident critic of Gitmo when he was an Illinois State Senator and one of its biggest opponent in the US Senate; who spoke specifically on closing the prison as part of his campaign platform for President (one of the few specifics in that campaign)--now wants to turn his back on a decade of opposition and keep it open, what has he learned since taking office? For him to go back on such a big and specific pledge, there has to be information that is conclusive that these people NEED to continue to be contained outside of the United States.

Frankly, when I heard he was doing a 180, my first reaction was fear. If President Obama can be talked into this position, and if AG Holder isn't resigning over it, they must have learned something scary.

 

IMO it's about trying to help his chances at getting re-elected.

 

Perhaps, but there's only so much you can do to piss off your base before they abandon you.