I see alot of people ragging on Josh Howard for calling that timeout at the end of game 5. But you all have it wrong. He was signaling to his coach to ASK if they were going to call a timeout after the freethrow. the signal was made at his hips and he was looking AJ right in the eye. Apparently a ref saw and called the timeout.
We know he was signaling to Avery, but if you make that signal, the refs have to call it.Series is over, I didn't see the Mavs winning it anyways.
Josh Howard called the time out. When you make the timeout signal the referee doesn't have a choice. If Howard didn't call the timeout like he says he didn't then why did he look like a puppy that crapped on the floor? It's his fault.
First off, if he didn't call the timeout then he shouldn't have started walking towards the bench.Secondly, if he didn't call the timeout he shoudln't have looked RIGHT AT the ref...Thirdly, it's just a mental mistake...He will be a top 15 NBA player VERY SOON and is already an elite player IMO...HE's young...we have to give him a little bit of time to mature...p.s. GO MAVS IN 06.07!!!
Top 15 might be a bit of a streach. Also as far as being young goes, yes he is young but he is only a little under 2 years younger than Kobe, I hope that helps put it into perspective. His potential is slightly less then many think because he went all 4 years at Wake Forest so therefore he progressed farther along and and wascloser to his full potential when he came out of college. I agree top 30 most likely, but your just a biased Mavs fan so I understand.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jun 23 2006, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Top 15 might be a bit of a streach. Also as far as being young goes, yes he is young but he is only a little under 2 years younger than Kobe, I hope that helps put it into perspective. His potential is slightly less then many think because he went all 4 years at Wake Forest so therefore he progressed farther along and and wascloser to his full potential when he came out of college. I agree top 30 most likely, but your just a biased Mavs fan so I understand.</div>lol ask anyone on this site I'm the most unbias fan here...Josh Howard has the potential...he works hard on both sides of the court...plain and simple...one of the hardest working players in the NBA...and if he continues then he could be top 15...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BottomOfDaMapTX @ Jun 23 2006, 01:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First off, if he didn't call the timeout then he shouldn't have started walking towards the bench.Secondly, if he didn't call the timeout he shoudln't have looked RIGHT AT the ref...Thirdly, it's just a mental mistake...He will be a top 15 NBA player VERY SOON and is already an elite player IMO...HE's young...we have to give him a little bit of time to mature...p.s. GO MAVS IN 06.07!!!</div>Some non biased from a Mavs about the series. Impressive. :beerchug: But, as for top 15. That may be a little far but, he is going to be up there.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BottomOfDaMapTX @ Jun 23 2006, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>First off, if he didn't call the timeout then he shouldn't have started walking towards the bench.Secondly, if he didn't call the timeout he shoudln't have looked RIGHT AT the ref...Thirdly, it's just a mental mistake...He will be a top 15 NBA player VERY SOON and is already an elite player IMO...HE's young...we have to give him a little bit of time to mature...p.s. GO MAVS IN 06.07!!!</div>what?? LMAO top 15? I don't think so. I'd hardly call him elite either. There are plenty of young players that are leaps and bounds beyond him. They would be elite, not him. stop being such a homer.
I have to say one thing, he didn't look at the ref nor say anything to the ref. All he did was signal a timeout with his hands, that is all. And that is calling a timeout to the refs, simple. And Howard is overrated by most Mavs fans, not me. The kid disappears still in 2nd halves, he's a good player, hustles, rebounds well and occasionally scores well. His defense is still suspect and average, he gets lazy and needs to learn to pass the ball. Has the worst tunnel vision I've seen. Not top 15, and probably will never be top 15 imo. He will be a good player for the Mavs, but still needs to tweak his game if he's going to be the Mavs legitimate 2nd option. He's not there yet.
It doesnt matter if he didnt look at the ref to call it. He signaled the timeout and started walking towards the bench. End of discussion. As for him being top 15. I highly doubt it. As long as he is on the mavericks, he will be overlooked by Dirk and Jet(if they resign him). He might be able to do what Joe Johnson did and go to his own team so he can possibly be a top 25. I dont see him being any better than that though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jun 22 2006, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Josh Howard called the time out. When you make the timeout signal the referee doesn't have a choice. If Howard didn't call the timeout like he says he didn't then why did he look like a puppy that crapped on the floor? It's his fault.</div>Yeah.. I saw his face.. he didnt even agrue that he called a timeout... so ... i dunno..
I never thought he didn't call it. He was going to the bench and never argued about the call. Seems pretty clear to me.
he obviously signalled timeout. It made me laugh how some analysts claimed the officials have to 'interpret' the players actions, i dont buy that. He should have waited until after yhe 2nd free throw
It was a mistake. Enough said. That didn't win or lsoe the game for them. Remember, a game is 48 minutes, and as much as one play can determine a game with a minute to go, people need to start looking at what transpired the other 47 minutes of the game. The Mavs were simply inconsistent, something I'm still not quite over
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jun 23 2006, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I see alot of people ragging on Josh Howard for calling that timeout at the end of game 5. But you all have it wrong. He was signaling to his coach to ASK if they were going to call a timeout after the freethrow. the signal was made at his hips and he was looking AJ right in the eye. Apparently a ref saw and called the timeout.</div>I actually agree with you. He was asking his coach, and then re asked it a 2nd time to make sure. That is the way I saw it.
