of course there are lazy private workers. some people are results based though. in the private sector you need to know how to network to get ahead and step on people if you need to.
And if the lazy, private sector workers whine about their job and compensation, they won't get any sympathy either. They'll be asked why they don't look for another job.
3 months summer vacation + christmas break + spring break. THEN they still get vacation and sick days.
First off Maxie nothing in what I said tells you anything about my character or approach to being an educator. Secondly, yes I am bias in that I feel the job I do has it's challenges and is a worthwhile profession. My comment on the process of becoming an educator is simply there to contrast the simplistic process of hiring that occurs all over the private sector. I also think becoming a successful teacher is an achievement, and one that I am proud of. Should I be ashamed of feeling successful? Should you? I am proud of the work that my students do, and I am proud of the effort and energy I put into my professional life. I care about my students understanding the content, and demonstrating their ability to do the work independently. I could give a shit about having a masters in teaching, or needing a certificate. It is a barrier to the process, but one that must be overcome if you truly want to teach. I love teaching, and nothing is going to stop that love of working with others to help them better understand the world around them.
from earlier: Average number of school days: *http://ask.yahoo.com/20050509.html 180 days. Lets assume 10 more days (2 weeks) for teacher's inservice, setting up before school year, etc (that is being generous) so 190 days total. versus the number of work days. 260 days vacations =14 days holidays=10 days vacation. 260-14-10=236 so on average 236 days. So...per year, a teacher making 60k per year would be equivalent of another working $74,500 per year if based on time actually "worked". Furthermore, since they only "work" 6 hours per day, the "real" equivalent for work performed is about $100k per year.
They complain because people like you, El Pres and Maxiep constantly berate their profession. I'm sure it gets tiring hearing that you don't work hard or very much and get to live this cushy life style when the reality is, especially for young teachers, that they put in a ton of hours, work extremely hard and make shit. Oh, but they get better benefits than some. The horror! Better go strip the only financially positive aspect of the job away from them.
Those were your words. YOU are the lazy worker. But as long as you fake like you're working hard, it ok. Again, your words.
i have people working for me. My work consists of making decisions, so I can "be lazy". It takes time to get there though.
1) Sorry. You have the entire thing backwards. The whining and complaining is what brings the criticism from people like me, El Pres and Maxie. When the whining and complaining start is when people actually look into their complaints, and it becomes obvious they have nothing to complain about. 2) You didn't answer the question. Why don't they look for a new job if the teaching job and compensation is so bad?
Again with the 6 hours a day argument. It's shit like that that makes teachers start complaining about feeling unappreciated.
Everyone's job consists of making decisions. Otherwise they would be replaced by robots. If you are "lazy" making decisions - they are most likely going to be bad decisions - making a decision is easy. It's the prep to make the right decisions that is the hard work.
Let's see: the teacher that I dated worked pretty much every day (other than Christmas and a couple of other days) during Winter Break on lesson plans, emergency re-certs, test grading, prep-work for upcoming final exams and cleaning her classroom (since janitorial service had been eliminated/cut at her school other than major facilities maintenance)... and similar story during Spring Break. That doesn't include the time she went shopping at thrift stores for teaching aids/materials and trying to beg donanted school supplies out of local businesses. It also didn't account for the time that parents would call her at all times of the day and night asking for advice or to help little Billy on the phone with his/her homework. One parent had the nerve to ask if she could drop her student off with the teacher at her home for the day "since I'm busy and you guys hang out so often anyway!" Yeah, being a teacher is just a ball of fucking sunshine.
Well, since you think that teachers are worthless drains on society, maybe that wouldn't be such a bad idea in your world.
1) I don't think that at all. Stupid strawman. 2) You can't answer the simple question? Why didn't they look for a different job?
I don't know if I posted this but I did teach for one year after college. I needed a job and they were easy to get in private schools since I had some experience teaching labs in college. It was a lot of hard work I'm not going to lie. But teachers know what the job is going to be like. You're not going to get rich teaching, its not a money making field for the most part. Its a job for self-satisfaction that you're doing something with COMFORTABLE pay and the best job security around.
Because she still found value in the job. And she felt that she was doing what she loved, so the bullshit that she had to go through wasn't worth shitcanning 6 years of university-level training and the student loans that went with it. As I said before, I don't see why anyone becomes a teacher these days.
