Don't be ridiculous. You don't think anyone has killed themselves or others behind the wheel of a vehicle, while high?
lol its not really that ridiculous hoss that would be the persons fault, not the marijuanas, i really dont see how you could argue differently. its not as if i was stating drunk driving fatalities, i was stating deaths by liver disease. but, just for you: most recent i could find was 2008 out of 37,261 driving fatalities 13,846 were alcohol related, or 37% as for marijuana, the best i could find was some anti-weed atricles attributing "dozens" of weed-related driving deaths per year. checkmate
drugwarfacts.com approximate deaths per year Tobacco 435,000 Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000 Alcohol 85,000 Microbial Agents 75,000 Toxic Agents 55,000 Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347 Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000 Suicide 30,622 Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000 Homicide 20,308 Sexual Behaviors 20,000 All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000 Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600 Marijuana 0
So people have died from "weed-related" accidents. That's exactly what I was trying to say, Cheif. YAHTZEE
if your point was that a few people have died in car crashes after they had smoked marijuana in the previous 30 days, congrats for tediously pointing out the painfully obvious. care to take a position? or just jump in and tell everyone that rain is wet. king me
Car accidents happen all the time, regardless of weed-intake. If you have no proof that smoking makes it more likely, you have no argument.
Wow, I'm an expert in all those things, except the homosexuality part. I sure enjoy a night of rape, downloading, gun-running, driving, abortion, and hitting your wife. In that order. I suppose the way around it would be to recognize that law and morality are not equivalent. It there was a law passed that outlawed Christianity, would you think Christianity was immoral? barfo
You can if you'd like. One of our "stupid" laws is that I can't make you worship anyone you don't want to. I just wouldn't recommend it, though. Another one of our "stupid" laws is the one that states one can partake of all the great things in the US without paying a dime in taxes, serving the country in any capacity, doing any volunteer work for your fellow man, while badmouthing whoever you'd like. It's only when you break other "stupid" laws that you have to accept the consequences of them. No one can tell me what to do. I run red lights, muthafucka!
As was stated before, you're correct that law and morality are not equivalent. Morality and right v. wrong ARE equivalent. One aspect of wrong is "knowingly doing that which is illegal". I'd add "for selfish" gain. But it seems like some people, instead of going to someplace like Canada where it is legal, want to partake of all the great parts of the US without the parts they don't like (like, say, following the laws of the country). I'm shocked and amazed that an observation that there's sure a lot of brainpower being used on illegal activity provokes the pro-drug users to "fuck this" and "fuck that" and blatent sarcastic attacks. Stay classy!
I wish we could all be as classy as you, Brian. Do you have a pamphlet we could all read? More importantly, will it be unfiltered so we can see your true classiness?
Don't look to me. I'm just a normal guy trying to do the right thing and fail a bunch. $9.99 on Kindle. Happy to help!
So, may I ask. Have you ever jay walked? Sped, even a little? Watched the Blazers on adhte or another one of those sites? If so, does that make you immoral because you broke the law? Or, if this was pre civil war and you helped free a slave (illegally), would that make you immoral? I'm guessing most people would argue it was the moral thing to do. And I'm not equating slavery to pot smoking. They are obviously not even close to the same thing, but if breaking a law is your sole judge of right/wrong or moral/immoral, it's a valid example.
Why has this become "am I perfect"? I've answered that in this thread. But I'll answer again. No, I'm not. I don't, however, spend lots of time thinking about how to beat a jaywalking charge, or constructing the best radar detector to beat speed traps, or attempted to code up a way to pirate a signal over 56k. I don't think that an adequate response to "I'm sad that you spend so much time and energy on illegal activity" is "oh yeah? You're immoral, too! Fuck laws!". I DO spend a lot of time working with people who don't have much money, or places to live, or drug or mental problems, or can't speak very good English, kids without parents, etc. I spent a lot of time trying to learn my trade so that I could be the best at doing a tough and important job safely and well, and leading others to do the same. Part of my job now is managing programs that will allow the gov't to keep the same capability at lower cost while retaining safety performance and treaty obligations. Pre-Civil War (and I've already talked about this), Wilberforce and Frederick Douglass the like were doing it the right way. John Brown was not, and Douglass told him so. One was legal. One was not. But we've been over that in other threads.
BrainFromWA- haters gonna hate. I love how people have responded sarcastically and attacked you just because you have a different view from them. Didn't know people were so passionate about weed. Interesting
