Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?/Genius KP rid of ZBo (merged)

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    yeah pretty much common sense
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    zach randolph's salary = 17.34 million

    20 million > 17.34 million
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    I think the real question is does Zbo go into the HOF as a Blazer? Grizzly? or Crip?
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    What does HOF stand for in this instance? Hospitality O'Felons? House 'Oop Family? HCP Or Fams?
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    I wasn't aware the Clippers had a Chinese farm team.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    we used one to get Crash. and if there is a lockout, if you don't have a guy under contract.....uhh...you won't have to pay him to sit at home.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    And that cap space could be for naught if the new CBA radically alters the cap. Get it?
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    Your point is moot. We leveraged the cap space of JP to get great player who will contribute, so apparently it has value.

    "could be" is hypothetical much like many of the shit being spewed about the next CBA. Its a total red herring being used in multiple situations from not extending contracts to "why its bad to have expiring contracts".

    In real world situations, it worked out. So much trading at the deadline, were we to have another max contract expiring for a team looking to SAVE money, not just clear cap room, ZBOEC would make sense.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    So, just so I'm clear, "All-Star" Zach Randolph's greatest value would be as an expiring contract at the trade deadline?

    That doesn't say much about his worth as a player, does it?
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    There is no relationship between the two.

    If you can leverage a large expiring contract of a player you don't need to fill a need, so be it. All-star and production be damned.

    I'm not saying that we needed to keep ZBO here his entire career. I just didn't like what we got in return. Would rather have waited to see how they played out rather than jump the gun and wait 2 years for cap space.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    I was always fine with the trade, and the bottom line is that the Blazers have been more successful without Zach as a max player than they were with him as a max contract player. Had the plan not worked, and the Blazers continued to stink, I would have a different view of the trade. What I remember most about that Zach trade was your complete freak out during that draft night.
     
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    Yeah, because it was a shit trade. The cap space plan didn't work out.
     
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    I still contend that pritch and penn were fired for overselling then fucking up the cap space plan.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    Suck on it, all of you who said you can't win with ZBo. 17 points in fourth quarter, beats Spurs in 6 games. Meanwhile, we have still not won a playoff series. But Aldridge is better than Randolph, right? Wrong!

    I'm so happy for Randolph. I think they have a good chance to reach the WCF. Suck on it, haters.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    While I like Randolph's game, your argument is flawed. There is no evidence that if you replaced Zach for LMA that we would have won a playoff series.

    Like I said earlier tonight; why can't we just be happy for Memphis and Zach instead of finding the negative?

    If you have to beat your chest about being "right", it makes me wonder if this is a rare occurrence.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    this battle has been brewing for years.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    It's funny to me that we have a fan base that turns so quickly on guys like Roy because of injuries, but still hold fond memories of Zach. Amazing.
     
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    Re: Is it time for me to stick it to the ZBo haters yet?

    I agree, but you have to remind yourself it's the vocal minority.
     
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