The Final Word On Obama's Birth Certificate

Blah blah blah. Like so many people here, it appears you didnt even bother to read the article in question before forming your opinion.

This is from Politifact, part of the series above posted, for which they won a Pulitzer (maybe that is tainted too!!!!):

"When we spoke to a spokeswoman for the Hawaii Department of Health, she said too much was being made of the difference between the so-called "long" and "short" forms. "They're just words," said spokeswoman Janice Okubo. "That (what was posted on the Internet) is considered a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."

"There's only one form of birth certificate," she said, and it's been the same since the 1980s. Birth certificates evolve over the decades, she said, and there are no doubt differences between the way birth certificates looked when Obama was born and now. "When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site," she said. "That's the birth certificate." "

 

I read it.

Note that they're quoting that it's been the same since the 80s. Was Obama born in the 1980s? He was born in 1961.

Also note that it's what Hawaii releases when someone requests a copy of the birth certificate. Why doesn't Hawaii release the original copy? It's the way Hawaii does things, but that still doesn't answer a simple question. They have his original birth certificate. Why not head down to a copy machine and end the discussion? I have no doubt that a birth certificate in the State of New Jersey looks different now than it did when I was born there. If someone wanted to see my original birth certificate, the State of New Jersey would have a copy of one created the day I was born.

Finally, they're not just words. But you, of course, know that, because you're a lawyer and you know words have import and meaning.

 

Hey, I'm a recovering lawyer! I came to my senses.

 

LOL! Repped!

 

My attention to detail tells me that Trump has not officially announced as a GOP candidate for President, nor has he filed the appropriate filings with the FEC. Maybe you saw those details elsewhere?

 

That's an easily disproven lie.

Susan Nordyke's Certificate of Live Birth from Kapiolani Hospital dated August 5, 1961.



Barack Obama's Certification of Live Birth from (Obama claims) Kapiolani Hospital dated August 4, 1961.



Certificate of Live Birth from a person born in 1981 at Kapiolani who requested their Certificate of Live Birth in March 2011.



See, that was easy.

 

Researching this Birther stuff brings some great comedy.

There is a faction of the Birther movement that is convinced that the name on Barry's Certificate of Live Birth is actually Steve Dunham. LOL!

http://www.google.com/search?q="ste...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

 

1963 Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, copy of which was requested in 1998.



But, they got a Pulitzer!! :MARIS61:

 

Um, I posted a "birth certificate" from the day after Obama was born, at the same hospital. Hawaiian BC's "evolved" in one day from a detailed and hand-written document to something that looks like it was printed with MicroSoft Word, and then back to hand-written and differently titled documents in 1963?

There are two different documents in Hawaii, the Certification of Live Birth (long form, hand-written, very detailed, hospital and attending physician listed), and the Certificate of Live Birth (short form, very few details, including no hospital), which is why I bolded the words Certificate and Certification. I do appreciate you sharing your ignorance with me, though. That was neat. Do I get a Pulitzer now?

Funny how everybody but Obama can get their hands on a hand-written Certification of Live Birth, isn't it?

 

That's not what was written in Stevenson's post, though. Stick to fart jokes.

Factual, too! On the other hand, your continued snark isn't masking your ignorance on the subject.

I never said it mattered. Logic, however, would say that Hawaii should have an original copy of the hand-written Certificate of Live Birth.

If you can't beat 'em, mock 'em.

A very stupid post, even considering it came from you.

 

So there are two forms, which is what I said.

See, that was easy.

Thanks for proving me correct.

 

Two forms that are considered the same in the eyes of Hawaii. Which is what the woman you were supposedly arguing with said.

 

Try to get a passport with that HI Certification of Live Birth.

 

As I've posted earlier in this thread, "short-form" certifications are functionally equivalent to "long-form" certificates in almost every case, as long as the parents' names are on it. Which they are, on Obama's.

If you're saying that getting a passport falls outside the "almost every case," feel free to provide evidence.