Once again Nate cost the Blazers a playoff game

Miller and Roy should not play at the same time; the team actually did well early in the fourth with roy in there without Miller, but Roy and Miller is not a good combination. Fiveman units including Roy and Miller logged our third and fourth most minutes over the season but between the two averaged only 48% win percentage.

 

I'm not a huge +/- guy, but I'm not surprised that Roy had the worst +/- in the game for either side.

 

Miller played tough. Except when he left Kidd alone. If we can stay even on the boards and play small, I would prefer it. Our D was not the issue. We out rebounded them by 1 and had a much better FG % than they did. They won at the ft line and the 3PT line. They made 16 more ft's while shooting jumpers. We attacked the basket more than they did.
We should have won. But there was another factor working against us.

 

I just looked at 82games.com again and realized that our most used fiveman unit, Miller-Matthews-Batum-Aldridge-Camby, only had a 47% win percentage; that seems weird.

 

I agree with this. Roy over the past month and half has remolded his game to be a drive and dish player, essentially a facilitator. Playing two distributers at the same time is redundant. They shouldn't play together as long as Roy isn't an shooting or scoring threat.

 

Regardless whose to blame. We need to get over this statistic.

We need to win Game 2.

 

I disagree. Roy's defense was terrible. You must not be watching the same game as I watched.

 

Looks like we've found our scapegoats. So fucking predictable.

 

Yeah, that's it. If someone doesn't agree with your over-the-top blame of Nate and Roy, they must not have watched the game.

It's times like there where I think that many Blazers "fans" don't deserve a championship. You same people will be feting Nate and Roy if the teams wins the next game, and Roy plays well.

The team wins, and the team loses. Pointing out one player as the reason is the work of simpletons.

 

...and without question not extended minutes in the 4th when he's been ineffective

STOMP

 

amen on that, rather have Wes's D or go with Miller and Wallace-Batum-Camby-Aldridge

 

yup. Based on regular season play, ball movement, and general ability to run, I'm for having Rudy ahead of him in the rotation as well

Roy is still capable of getting on a roll offensively on some nights, but he's always limited on D by his lack of mobility. There needs to be an opposing wing player who's pretty limited offensively to hide him on. Even then teams will be looking to exploit him by getting him switched off onto someone who'll take him off the dribble and collapse the D. The upside of playing him is limited/varies, the downside is a constant.

I'm for him getting minutes in the first half to rest Portland's better players for the stretch. If he's having one of his good nights, then only maybe does he get to play some minutes in the 4th.

 

which is what we have done quite often but last night Nate changed that and left Roy in for all that time in the 4th qtr even though he was totally ineffective - that was a bad move by Nate

 

I'm not saying for sure we would have won the game but I think we would have a lot better chance with Miller playing more of the 4th qtr and Roy not playing. Nate decided to play Roy for the complete 4th qtr and I believe that was a big mistake. Our offense ran a lot better with Miller and we needed him in the 4th qtr as much as possible. We needed Camby or at least Matthews in the 4th qtr.

I love Roy and what he has done for the Blazers in the past but he just doesn't have that anymore with his knees and I think most people watching the game could see that. Why couldn't Nate see that. I'm sorry if you don't like my opinion and I'm not the only "simpleton" that saw this. This is one reason I haven't posted much on this forum in the last year.

 

kind of silly to get angry when someone/eveyone points out that roy had a bad game.

dont talk about my mamma!

 

I was watchng the ESPN broadcast. I guess you were watching the local broadcast......

Look Roy can have match ups that are not the best for him. Last night it just was not a factor. I can see leaving Rudy in when Miller came back instead of Roy. But I can't see it making any difference last nght as both would have used to spread the floor or to feed LMA. The Blazers on O were going to LMA down the stretch. Roy was the 5th option with that line up. And Camby IMO should never be in at the end of the game because we need Wallace and Batum in there.

You can blame Roy and you can blame Nate, but I don't think that was the reason.

 

I was watching the local broadcast. I can see your point somewhat but I even think the offense bogged down without Miller running the team. I don't mind having Roy in the 4th qtr if he is playing really well but not at pg. I disagree about not having Camby in the 4th. If we are having any problems with rebounding I think we need Camby in the 4th. I do agree with needing both Batum and Wallace in the game. I think we should of had LMA, Wallace, Batum, Matthews and Miller in for most the 4th qtr. If we needed rebounding and inside defense you replace Matthews with Camby.

Also I shouldn't have posted "You must not be watching the same game as I watched" in response to you earlier post. I'm sorry.

 

Didn't work for us last year though.

 

I don't see anybody criticizing Wallace or Matthews for their brutal games. Just one player, which has been the norm here for years (on various boards, except ESPN). That player changes, but the whiners still whine about one player. It's binary and boring.