What seperates you from the Great and the Bad? What makes you a good player? Discuss.Name a few players that are just Good Players. Looking to have a pretty nice discussion on this topic going.
<u>Great Players:</u>1. Can take over games2. Can make others around them better3. Can make it easier for other players around them4. If teams prepare to stop that player more then the rest of the teamGreat players are: Lebron, Kobe, Iverson, Wade, Duncan, ect ......Good players are like players like: Marion
Great players:1. Can take over a game2. Makes teammates better3. Plays on BOTH ends of the floor4. Is a leader5. Elevates his game when his team means it most6. Have accomplished things in their careers (not necessarily a ring, but if you never are on a competing team you can't be considered a great player in my opinion)Great players in the league right now: Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, Kevin Garnett, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Webber (past C-Webb), and Alonzo Mourning.Good Players: Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Shawn Marion, Jermaine O'Neal, Dirk Nowitzki, Elton Brand, Sam Cassell, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, etc. - until they win a ring or compete for one while leading the team.LeBron is unbelivable, but hasn't accomplished anything winning wise yet. Give him time. Wade - same thing, even though he won a championship. You can't call someone great after 3 years in the league.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 26 2006, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Great players:1. Can take over a game2. Makes teammates better3. Plays on BOTH ends of the floor4. Is a leader5. Elevates his game when his team means it most6. Have accomplished things in their careers (not necessarily a ring, but if you never are on a competing team you can't be considered a great player in my opinion)Great players in the league right now: Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, Kevin Garnett, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Webber (past C-Webb), and Alonzo Mourning.Good Players: Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Shawn Marion, Jermaine O'Neal, Dirk Nowitzki, Elton Brand, Sam Cassell, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, etc. - until they win a ring or compete for one while leading the team.LeBron is unbelivable, but hasn't accomplished anything winning wise yet. Give him time. Wade - same thing, even though he won a championship. You can't call someone great after 3 years in the league.</div>Great players right now, and you say Gary Payton, Zo, Webber, Kidd? Right now mean Wade, and Lebron would have to be included not those.But good points for what = a great player.
Good Players:-Good additude-Work extremely hard-Good character(most)-Put 100% into the game-Respect their coachesThats about all I can think of as of right now.
Good Players are-Leaders for their team-Make players around them easier and make the game come to them easier-Plays well offensively and defensively-plays well in the clutch-Takes over a game when needed- Gives 100% every game and practice- is the first one to get to the gm and the last one to leave- always sets a good example for team mates- Has a great basketball iq- only selfish when is neededthose are what came to mind. ill edit my post if I think of more
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jun 26 2006, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Great players right now, and you say Gary Payton, Zo, Webber, Kidd? Right now mean Wade, and Lebron would have to be included not those.But good points for what = a great player.</div>Players in the league who are considered great players when looking at their careers, yes. Everyone I mentioned is considered a great player (even if their prime is passed, they once were great players).
Players who are good on both sides of the floor.Guys like Duncan, Kobe, Garnett, Dirk, Jason Kidd (pre injury), Payton.Some aren't so good on D but make up for it with amazing O, like Magic and Lebron, Tmac.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 26 2006, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Great players:1. Can take over a game2. Makes teammates better3. Plays on BOTH ends of the floor4. Is a leader5. Elevates his game when his team means it most6. Have accomplished things in their careers (not necessarily a ring, but if you never are on a competing team you can't be considered a great player in my opinion)Great players in the league right now: Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson, Steve Nash, Kevin Garnett, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Webber (past C-Webb), and Alonzo Mourning.Good Players: Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Shawn Marion, Jermaine O'Neal, Dirk Nowitzki, Elton Brand, Sam Cassell, Vince Carter, Ray Allen, etc. - until they win a ring or compete for one while leading the team.LeBron is unbelivable, but hasn't accomplished anything winning wise yet. Give him time. Wade - same thing, even though he won a championship. You can't call someone great after 3 years in the league.</div>After reading your 6 things that makes a player great I was shocked to see Dirk on your "Good" and not "Great" list.He does every thing on that list. Also, I dont think Payton, Webber, or Mourning are great players right now. They used to be.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 26 2006, 11:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Players in the league who are considered great players when looking at their careers, yes. Everyone I mentioned is considered a great player (even if their prime is passed, they once were great players).</div>Ow yea they are all great players. I thought you were saying like right now. So right now they would not be on this list.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (arya202 @ Jun 27 2006, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Players who are good on both sides of the floor.Guys like Duncan, Kobe, Garnett, Dirk, Jason Kidd (pre injury), Payton.Some aren't so good on D but make up for it with amazing O, like Magic and Lebron, Tmac.</div>Umm T-Mac has been my 3rd fav player in the NBA a few years now. But you put him on the list, and don't put AI in there? lol ................... AI def amazing on O, and not good on D.And iversonfan268............ Iverson a great player, but he does not set to much of a good example to his teammates. lol And 100% every practice? Not AI hahahawe talking about practice dude, not a game practice, what are we talking about practice? I'M suppose to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about practice LOL (I still crack up every time I here that) That was great I will never for get it. But haha he is right the other guys practice all the time so much it does to help them play better. lol
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jun 27 2006, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ow yea they are all great players. I thought you were saying like right now. So right now they would not be on this list.Umm T-Mac has been my 3rd fav player in the NBA a few years now. But you put him on the list, and don't put AI in there? lol ................... AI def amazing on O, and not good on D.And iversonfan268............ Iverson a great player, but he does not set to much of a good example to his teammates. lol And 100% every practice? Not AI hahahawe talking about practice dude, not a game practice, what are we talking about practice? I'M suppose to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about practice LOL (I still crack up every time I here that) That was great I will never for get it. But haha he is right the other guys practice all the time so much it does to help them play better. lol</div>Yeah sure put Iverson in there my bad it was just of the top of my head.BTW that practice speech was the greatest. Someone pull the whole thing from youtube or something.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ Jun 27 2006, 01:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ow yea they are all great players. I thought you were saying like right now. So right now they would not be on this list.Umm T-Mac has been my 3rd fav player in the NBA a few years now. But you put him on the list, and don't put AI in there? lol ................... AI def amazing on O, and not good on D.And iversonfan268............ Iverson a great player, but he does not set to much of a good example to his teammates. lol And 100% every practice? Not AI hahahawe talking about practice dude, not a game practice, what are we talking about practice? I'M suppose to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about practice LOL (I still crack up every time I here that) That was great I will never for get it. But haha he is right the other guys practice all the time so much it does to help them play better. lol</div>LOL I know AI doesnt always set a great example for teammates or always give 100% at practice. To be a great player though you don't have to have all those traits. Barely any players if any players in the history of the NBA has had all those traits. As long as you have most of those though I would consider that player great.
What makes one a good player, and what seperates players, is the ability to do many things. Not only shooting from the outside, but taking it in. Not only scoring 30, but getting 10 assists. That's why I love guys like DWade, Nash, LeBron, because they can do so much. Pass, rebound, score. Same with guys like Kobe, Paul Pierce, etc.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (arya202 @ Jun 27 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah sure put Iverson in there my bad it was just of the top of my head.BTW that practice speech was the greatest. Someone pull the whole thing from youtube or something.</div>Yea I understand it's cool. Yea that speech haha wow. Yea I saw it on youtube before. Hope they did not take it of I will be going back every now, and then listening to that. lol<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jun 27 2006, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LOL I know AI doesnt always set a great example for teammates or always give 100% at practice. To be a great player though you don't have to have all those traits. Barely any players if any players in the history of the NBA has had all those traits. As long as you have most of those though I would consider that player great.</div>I know I am not saying you have to do all that to be great. My point was you don't have to do all that to be great that's all. I mean if your a special player just by not going to practice you being great won't change of course.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ Jun 27 2006, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What makes one a good player, and what seperates players, is the ability to do many things. Not only shooting from the outside, but taking it in. Not only scoring 30, but getting 10 assists. That's why I love guys like DWade, Nash, LeBron, because they can do so much. Pass, rebound, score. Same with guys like Kobe, Paul Pierce, etc.</div>Just wanna say Wade, Lebron, Peirce all average less points, and assists then Iverson. The only player who is close to 30 pluse, and 10 assists is AI. Not saying AI is better then Lebron just because AI averages more points, and assists wanna clear that up before people start bashing. lol I was just saying.
