I don't know man. I'm just happy we won and most of all, it was a team effort. I would have hated if Roy played 35+ minutes and sucked the life from all the other players, and we still won. I would also hate if that same thing happened if Miller was jacking up shot after shot too. So basically, I am just happy that our team came out as a team; instead of individuals. I get points on both sides and frankly, I don't give a shit anymore. I just want to win baby!
Yes, I do believe all players share both blame and credit for their team's success, or lack of success. I don't agree, however that the PG is necessarily more or less important than the other players. It really depends on the team. Does Derek Fisher deserve more credit than Kobe Bryant or Shaquille O'Neal for those rings he won? Does John Paxon deserve more credit than Michael Jordan or Scottie Pippen? Did Avery Johnson deserve more credit than Tim Duncan? I tend to hand out credit,or blame, proportionally to the importance of the player to his team. Miller has never clearly been the best player on his team. He's usually been second or third best. He's never been an allstar and certainly isn't a superstar. He's basically been the 10th - 15th best PG in the league for most of his career - above average, but not the kind of player who can lead his team to post season success without significant help. Miller's biggest "fault" is he's never been on team with clearly superior teammates. BNM
That a team with Miller on it has never won a playoff series, and how that pattern may extend into this season, which would be troubling for the Blazers and their fans. He's an outlier on the Top 50 list, as I've posted previously. I don't solely blame him, and I never did solely blame him. You chasing me around doesn't work, mainly because you make up my argument for me. Are you taking lessons from BoobNoMore? In this instance, the pattern could be troubling (?), in terms of the success of the Blazers in this series.
i guess why it isnt troubling me is that his postseason appearances prior to this series dont necessarily mean anything to me. he is clearly playing well THIS series. and probably most of the other ones. a team comprised entirely of andres of various sizes would have won a couple series by now.
It's not solely Miller's fault. Now you're just being boring; mailing it in, if you will, with the strawmen. He was a part of those teams as their starting PG; hence, he takes some blame for the losses. Later!
Dude it makes no sense that you are defending Roy and saying losses aren't soley his fault, then use something like this about Miller. I defend both of them. What we saw last night was Miller, Wes and Roy being able to co-exist on the floor. They actually played well together. No Roy vs. Miller, Nate vs. Miller, Nate vs. Roy, Roy vs. Aldridge.... None of that! Who gives a shit what happened until now?!?! We showed one night that everyone was on the same page. Did you see Roy's interview? He's happy, the team's happy and us fans should be happy.
But enough his fault that he might bring his "losing pattern" to the Blazers, thereby causing a team good enough to win to actually lose due to his presence and his pattern, hence the potentially troubling aspect to the trivia fact? I don't see how I could be making a strawman when I've only been asking you questions. I think you're angry. About something!
Why does he have to take blame for the losses, what if those teams would have done worse without him? Maybe he made all the players around him better, got them shots ect. You're playing the "read between the lines" game, and when people point out what you're getting at you act as if they're putting words in your mouth, when really they're just making logical conclusions. Have fun setting your little "traps"
A guy that advocated for waiving Andre at the trade deadline is clearly not capable of rational discussion when it comes to Miller. He is either a very bad judge of talent, which makes his opinion about that player irrelevant, or he just makes stuff up to hack people off. Go Blazers
Funny thing, Miller took his team to the Championship in college basketball.... how many players can claim that? So how come he was successful in college but not in the NBA?
I didn't give an opinion about the fact posted in this thread about Miller not winning a first-round series, and I didn't make up that fact. Dumb post.
You felt it was potentially troubling, which means you felt it had some bearing on Miller and his impact on the Blazers. If you didn't, it wouldn't be (potentially) troubling. It would be just be weird. QED, buddy. QED.
Saying Dre is a 'proven loser' IS an opinion about the fact posted in this thread. DUMB REPLY. Beyond that, who said my comment was limited to this thread? On many occations you have indicated that Dre sucks, not the least of which was advocating to waive him at the trade deadline. I can understand why you would want to avoid answering for such an ignorant position, but you said it, and you should own it. So, given the above, do your statements come from your utter inability to judge talent, or do you just like to piss people off....you know, like a troll? Go Blazers
He is a "proven loser" in the NBA, though, at least in the playoffs,in my opinion. You could apologize for saying I made up a fact, but I know that won't happen, so we'll continue this roundy-round, and I'll consider you to be baiting/trolling me. I hope 'Dre can lead this team to a series win as their PG. Do you question that opinion as well?
