No shit. When those bastards are cutting of civilian workers heads on TV with dull knives... Kidnapping, torturing and killing their own because of a difference in sects.. Their own leaders committing genocide enmass... Bringing their terror to our shores.. Yeah..we are the bad guys..
Who in this thread said "We are the bad guys"???? And who are "those bastards"? Iraqis? Afghanis? Saudi Arabians? Egyptians? Arabs? Muslims? Sunni? Shiite? Kurds? Taliban? If you're using the Taliban as a measuring stick then you're setting the bar pretty low.
Tailban is a symptom of a mindset, its the mind set that I abhor. We should stop looking th treat these fuckers as though they were citizens of this country, no more kid gloves. Apply the laws of their own country's, turn them into toast, and put the fear of god in the survivors by burying them with pigs
C'mon, I don't put words in your mouth, please don't put any in mine. Criticizing Gitmo doesn't mean I think we are "bad guys". I know there are dangerous people there, I've stated that in this thread. If we do that then we are no better than the Taliban. Do you want revenge or justice because you can't have both.
It would take anonymous about 13 seconds (combined) to know way, way too much about me I still think that Wikileaks is bad. Illegally obtained information should not be able to be legally housed on the internet IMO, whether it's music or political paperwork. Ed O.
Ok, you never said "bad guys", but your argument parrells Demo party lines, and has the feel of the same shit I have read and heard from the left. I will make no bones about it. I want these guys gone or dead. If their own countries will not put them on trial and convict them, then we should execute anyone who we may again meet on the field of battle or have any fear that they may continue on their ways of terror. This is a war. We should prosecute it as such. We had the balls to fire bomb Germany in WW2 to make sure that they would not want to start a new war. We dropped the atom bomb on Japan and they lost their will to wage war. We need to have the same determination now that we had then. The mindset of limited war has been tryed and has failed, see VN, Look at what a mess we now have on our hands. We can not try and win their minds, we must break their will.
Glad you're all too happy to use the Geneva Convetion as toilet paper. Sounds more like you want genocide than proper prosecution of enemy combatants or war criminals. So when should we drop the bomb on Iraq & Afghanistan? I am sure everyone in those countries is guilty of crimes against our freedoms. Unless they're not... Convert by the sword & rule with an iron fist. Smells like freedom.
You would too if you were imprisoned and tortured. Means no more than me saying David Stern is 7 ft tall.
Bullshit. You don't even know who "these guys" are. You've never met any of them, never seen them do anything evil. Our government doesn't even have any evidence that they've done anything to be imprisoned for. Just bagged them on the right place wrong time theory. "These guys" are no different than the children Mengele experimented on, and our "military intelligence" is no different than Mengele himself.
Some of them really are enemy combatants or would be considered POWs. That's a bit different than innocent children taken from their homes & sent to concentration camps where they were experimented on.
The Geneva Convention doesn't apply to soldiers not sanctioned by a recognized nation and not in uniform. Glad to see you're ignorant as to what the Geneva Convention actually addresses.
Does it? What argument, that we shouldn't act like the Taliban? Who makes that decision? Who's fear? What qualifies as a "way of terror?" Have you thought about this at all, or are you just spouting whatever comes to mind first? Yeah, let's nuke northwest Pakistan. That sounds like a solid plan, guy. The mindset of limited war has failed? Just nuke em all then? One has to appreciate your GET R DUN attitude towards foreign relations.
I'm interested in your idea that these are armed forces. They don't wear uniforms, they hide behind women and children and they don't adhere to the Geneva Convention in their treatment of captured soldiers themselves.
The US has no proof they are anything other than innocent civilians who were illegally detained and imprisoned by our military in the course of executing illegal invasions of 3 sovereign countries. The actions related to GITMO are barbaric and ignorant, and will go down in history alongside the Salem witch trials and the McCarthy hearings as our country's most embarrassing periods.
While that may be true, it has nothing to do with the Geneva Convention, and how it applies to the "innocent civilians" the big bad USA ripped from their white picket fenced homes.
