Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! I'm not going to cut him slack if he has had health problems. Wup tee doo. He missed 20 games last year. I guess now Im going to say he's an almighty player because of what he did after he missed 20 games...Sorry but every player has health problems, their supposed to play just as good when they return, and no one cuts slack to people who have been battling injuries, so why should I with Al? If you took a poll, I bet a ton of people would say that your "young talent" wont amount to anything. I doubt any of your "young talent" will become all stars, just average starters. Gerald Green is probably your best prospect. Youve spent so much time invresting in your young guys, they arent even that good. Chris Bosh, Joey Graham, TJ Ford and Andrea Bargnani are 2 times better than your "young talent".
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I havnt seen anything from him yet. He is only 21, but he hasnt shown me results at all. By the 3rd season if he doesnt prove anything, I am sure that he won't amount to much. You say all these great things about him, but he averages 8 and 5. So what? LMAO, a great perimeter defender? LMFAO. He is about the worst defender in the League right now, and your saying he can be one of the best? Sorry, but you can tell who will be good defenders and who wont be. If it was so easy to teach defense, he would be a great defender already. Good size? So I guess Shawn Bradley was a great player because of his size. Dont feed me bull sh*t traits like that. He can play the 2 or the 3. Another ignorant statement. That doesnt show how he is a good player. Any 6"7 guy who can run can play the 2 or the 3. It doesnt mean sh*t. Unless he shows me more to his skill set, I wont show him any respect. Oh yeah, Im still upset about that dunk. I dont give a sh*t. We will finish ahead of you guys next year, unless you magically trade Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes and Rajon Rando for Allen Iverson and someone else.</div>you keep on saying that he averages 8 and 5. And you ignore the fact that he has had very serious injuries to his ankle, starting from the beginning of training camp. Not to mention Ryan Gomes blowing up as well. When Al got time, he performed. Simple as that.And if you didn't notice, DRob said that he COULD be a great defender. That doesn't mean he is one right now. And he does have the potential to be a good defender, with his athleticism and length. I personally don't think he will tho. And he's the worst defender in the league? Stupid over exaggerations won't help your case. Why are you bringing Shawn Bradley into this? He was a f*cking clutz with no skills whatsoever. Size on the wings matters, don't try to manipulate what we're saying. And he wasn't trying to say how good he was by saying he can play the 2 or 3. He was simply just saying that. Like i said before, you've only seen him a few times, he doesn't have to show you anything. hahah, i will bet you any amount of money that the Celtics will beat out the raps next year.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I havnt seen anything from him yet. He is only 21, but he hasnt shown me results at all. By the 3rd season if he doesnt prove anything, I am sure that he won't amount to much. You say all these great things about him, but he averages 8 and 5. So what? LMAO, a great perimeter defender? LMFAO. He is about the worst defender in the League right now, and your saying he can be one of the best? Sorry, but you can tell who will be good defenders and who wont be. If it was so easy to teach defense, he would be a great defender already. Good size? So I guess Shawn Bradley was a great player because of his size. Dont feed me bull sh*t traits like that. He can play the 2 or the 3. Another ignorant statement. That doesnt show how he is a good player. Any 6"7 guy who can run can play the 2 or the 3. It doesnt mean sh*t. Unless he shows me more to his skill set, I wont show him any respect. Oh yeah, Im still upset about that dunk. I dont give a sh*t. We will finish ahead of you guys next year, unless you magically trade Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes and Rajon Rando for Allen Iverson and someone else.</div>Hey little boy look up the word ignorant before you use it in a sentence. He is 6'8 by the way. Ok, let's do some math, I hope you can understand. Insane athlete+huge potential+great work ethic+2 more years=great defender. You know what why do I bother you have already gotten owned like 4 times(today, haha), I'll let this one slide. Ya kid your right
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jul 3 2006, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey little boy look up the word ignorant before you use it in a sentence. He is 6'8 by the way. Ok, let's do some math, I hope you can understand. Insane athlete+huge potential+great work ethic+2 more years=great defender. You know what why do I bother you have already gotten owned like 4 times(today, haha), I'll let this one slide. Ya kid your right </div>Sorry dude, but the worst defenders in the League dont magically get better. He's probably been playing for like 15 years now. Dont you think his coaches tried to teach him defense? Not all athletic people will be good defenders. Thats f*cking rediculous. I can name you a ton of star athletic swingmen and athletic Forwards that suck at defense.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not going to cut him slack if he has had health problems. Wup tee doo. He missed 20 games last year. I guess now Im going to say he's an almighty player because of what he did after he missed 20 games...Sorry but every player has health problems, their supposed to play just as good when they return, and no one cuts slack to people who have been battling injuries, so why should I with Al? If you took a poll, I bet a ton of people would say that your "young talent" wont amount to anything. I doubt any of your "young talent" will become all stars, just average starters. Gerald Green is probably your best prospect. Youve spent so much time invresting in your young guys, they arent even that good. Chris Bosh, Joey Graham, TJ Ford and Andrea Bargnani are 2 times better than your "young talent".</div>what do you mean no one cuts slack to players with injuries. they always do! And we're not saying he is great now god damn it! we're saying he has the potential to be a great player, and he does. We've seen him play, we know the tools he has, you don't. LMAO i can't believe you just said Joey Graham was two times better than our young talent.okay, i'm leaving town for two days, but when i get back, we will make a poll, and i will have a hardcore argument with you. Get your best stuff ready, bc i'm going to terrorize you.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry dude, but the worst defenders in the League dont magically get better. He's probably been playing for like 15 years now. Dont you think his coaches tried to teach him defense? Not all athletic people will be good defenders. Thats f*cking rediculous. I can name you a ton of star athletic swingmen and athletic Forwards that suck at defense.</div>you are WAAAAAY off on this entire post. umm, he's not even close to being the worst defender in the league. and he's only been playing organized ball for like 3 or 4 years now.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 3 2006, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>you keep on saying that he averages 8 and 5. And you ignore the fact that he has had very serious injuries to his ankle, starting from the beginning of training camp. Not to mention Ryan Gomes blowing up as well. When Al got time, he performed. Simple as that.And if you didn't notice, DRob said that he COULD be a great defender. That doesn't mean he is one right now. And he does have the potential to be a good defender, with his athleticism and length. I personally don't think he will tho. And he's the worst defender in the league? Stupid over exaggerations won't help your case. Why are you bringing Shawn Bradley into this? He was a f*cking clutz with no skills whatsoever. Size on the wings matters, don't try to manipulate what we're saying. And he wasn't trying to say how good he was by saying he can play the 2 or 3. He was simply just saying that. Like i said before, you've only seen him a few times, he doesn't have to show you anything. hahah, i will bet you any amount of money that the Celtics will beat out the raps next year.</div>Whoop dee doo. Lots of players have to play through injuries. It's part of the game. Stop trying to excuse him. 8 and 5 is performing to Celtics fans I guess. He didnt perform sh*t. He hasnt shown anyoner anything. Ryan Gomes did blow up. He is a good player, but come on. Do you think he will be an all star or something? He won't be anything more than good. He is a smart basketball player with a decent shot, but he doesnt have huge potential.Sorry, but he went to the DLeagues for a reason. They probably worked hundreds of hours trying to improve his defense. Did you see him come back and do great defensively? I must have missed that. Players dont magically come from a horrible defender to q great one. Give me 3 examples of that happening. I brought Shawn Bradley into this as an example that size isnt a trait. Now your just being retarded, ignoring my example. Ok, so what are we down to here with Gerald. Dunking, Driving and Ball Handling. Wow, that kid is a great player!I will bet you my soul that the Raptors will beat your Celtics next year.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, so what are we down to here with Gerald. Dunking, Driving and Ball Handling. Wow, that kid is a great player!</div>O my f*cking god...... :ranting:
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sorry dude, but the worst defenders in the League dont magically get better. He's probably been playing for like 15 years now. Dont you think his coaches tried to teach him defense? Not all athletic people will be good defenders. Thats f*cking rediculous. I can name you a ton of star athletic swingmen and athletic Forwards that suck at defense.</div>How can you say he is one of the worst defenders in the NBA. He has played 32 NBA games, and only 374 minutes. Of those minutes you only saw the 10 seconds where he dunked on your Raptors(when they gave up and didn't play hard until the end of the game regardless of how silly it was of Green). Out of those ton of "star athletic swingmen and fowards", by the way that is redundant(a swingman means he plays both the 2 and 3, a 3 being a foward incase you didn't know) how many are 19 years old who are a very long 6'8 with the ability to stay in front of anyone? So your saying there is no difference between the level of coaching from elementary, junoir high, and school coaches to the level of coaching in the NBA? Oh and by the way he didn't play basketbal until his freshman year of HS.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whoop dee doo. Lots of players have to play through injuries. It's part of the game. Stop trying to excuse him. 8 and 5 is performing to Celtics fans I guess. He didnt perform sh*t. He hasnt shown anyoner anything. Ryan Gomes did blow up. He is a good player, but come on. Do you think he will be an all star or something? He won't be anything more than good. He is a smart basketball player with a decent shot, but he doesnt have huge potential.Sorry, but he went to the DLeagues for a reason. They probably worked hundreds of hours trying to improve his defense. Did you see him come back and do great defensively? I must have missed that. Players dont magically come from a horrible defender to q great one. Give me 3 examples of that happening. I brought Shawn Bradley into this as an example that size isnt a trait. Now your just being retarded, ignoring my example. Ok, so what are we down to here with Gerald. Dunking, Driving and Ball Handling. Wow, that kid is a great player!I will bet you my soul that the Raptors will beat your Celtics next year.</div>When will you f*cking realize that we never said he was great this past year? We're saying he has potential, and that is judged on what we've seen from him this year, not stats. Trust me, i saw him about 50 times this year, you saw him 2 or 3. I never said a thing about Ryan Gomes being an all-star.They worked hundreds of hours? LMAO, what a stupid thing to say. you seriously are getting on my nerves. When will you learn that Gerald has more to his game than athleticism?? You're just blatantly guessing what his game is about without knowing sh*t. It just tells me more that you said he was a great ballhandler. That was actually one of the few things he has to work on. yes, he went to the d league for a reason, he had three or four guys aheead of him in the rotation, he'd been playing organized ball for 3 years, and he needed to refine his skills. And he scored atleast 17 points in four of his last 7 games, for the most part getting reserve minutes, only hitting over 30 minutes twice. he averaged 5 ppg in only 11 minutes for the season. But, i guess i'll take your work for it, you seem to know much more about the subject.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! Excuse my rudeness, I would rather stick an M-80 up my butt then read another one of CB4AllStar's posts. :brickwall:
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! THANK YOU.cb4, when will you realize that no one agrees with you and you're just being ignorant?
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, so what are we down to here with Gerald. Dunking, Driving and Ball Handling. Wow, that kid is a great player! </div>I still cant get over that..After like 5 pages of debating this..You then post that rediculous comment..O my god :closedeyes:
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 3 2006, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I still cant get over that..After like 5 pages of debating this..You then post that rediculous comment..O my god :closedeyes:</div>WTF is wrong with that comment? Thats his current skillset.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Showtime @ Jul 3 2006, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Excuse my rudeness, I would rather stick an M-80 up my butt then read another one of CB4AllStar's posts. :brickwall:</div>Yeah, and who the F*ck are you? I would debate you any day.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jul 3 2006, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How can you say he is one of the worst defenders in the NBA. He has played 32 NBA games, and only 374 minutes. Of those minutes you only saw the 10 seconds where he dunked on your Raptors(when they gave up and didn't play hard until the end of the game regardless of how silly it was of Green). Out of those ton of "star athletic swingmen and fowards", by the way that is redundant(a swingman means he plays both the 2 and 3, a 3 being a foward incase you didn't know) how many are 19 years old who are a very long 6'8 with the ability to stay in front of anyone? So your saying there is no difference between the level of coaching from elementary, junoir high, and school coaches to the level of coaching in the NBA? Oh and by the way he didn't play basketbal until his freshman year of HS.</div>I saw 4 games that Green played in. I think that is alot actually to assess a player. He was horrible defensively, and hardly showed any effort at all. It doesnt matter. Someone is going to try to teach him defense. From my understanding, he doesnt give a sh*t, because he shows no effort playing defense.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, and who the F*ck are you? I would debate you any day.</div>Really? How old are you 14-15? I am 24 years old, I have been watching basketball before you were born. I would love to go anyday with you on any subject.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Showtime @ Jul 3 2006, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really? How old are you 14-15? I am 24 years old, I have been watching basketball before you were born. I would love to go anyday with you on any subject.</div>Hes 13
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>WTF is wrong with that comment? Thats his current skillset.Yeah, and who the F*ck are you? I would debate you any day.I saw 4 games that Green played in. I think that is alot actually to assess a player. He was horrible defensively, and hardly showed any effort at all. It doesnt matter. Someone is going to try to teach him defense. From my understanding, he doesnt give a sh*t, because he shows no effort playing defense.</div>That's the thing. that is NOT his current skillset. he has an outside shot you retard.Which four games did you see him play in? bc he played against toronto twice, and he didn't reall play in any of the games that were on espn or that stuff. You're exaggerating again. That's just a lie what you are saying. He doesn't give a sh*t? that is SOO far off. I've seen him when he gives effort. He defended lebron james for a a few minutes, and didn't even do a horrible job. seriously, STOP BULLSHITTING.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Showtime @ Jul 3 2006, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Really? How old are you 14-15? I am 24 years old, I have been watching basketball before you were born. I would love to go anyday with you on any subject.</div>haha yeah he is 13. and i would really want to see this. cb4 would get OWNED.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 3 2006, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hes 13 </div>Dude, Im the same age as you buddy. I turn 14 in August. Maybe you are half a year older than me..<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 3 2006, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's the thing. that is NOT his current skillset. he has an outside shot you retard.Which four games did you see him play in? bc he played against toronto twice, and he didn't reall play in any of the games that were on espn or that stuff. You're exaggerating again. That's just a lie what you are saying. He doesn't give a sh*t? that is SOO far off. I've seen him when he gives effort. He defended lebron james for a a few minutes, and didn't even do a horrible job. seriously, STOP BULLSHITTING.haha yeah he is 13. and i would really want to see this. cb4 would get OWNED.</div>Dude, they show alot of different games on NBA TV..Stop bullshitting? Face the facts. He is a very poor defender..
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! he is a poor defender. i was saying stop bullshitting referring to you post as a whole. bc you said Gerald doesn't have a jumpshot, which is just a stupid thing to say.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! He isnt a great shooter like you make him out to be. He has a jumper, but it is average at best.
