Canzano: whispers about 4 years, 40 mil extn. for Oden?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by illmatic99, Apr 29, 2011.

  1. DaLincolnJones

    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Messages:
    8,319
    Likes Received:
    1,886
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ahhhhh, I try to avoid clownzano stuff, but you got me to read it..

    I think if the clown has anything, its a bargin at four and fourty.

    Who knows what the new CBA will bring, I have to think that non guaranteed contracts and more pay for play type of structured deals will be the rage, but that is beside the point.

    sets head back on the desk and dreams of Oden stuffing over a crying Dirk......
     
  2. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    If there is ever a hard cap, there would be some arrangements for contracts already made. You can't go back to a player and say "oops just kidding, we can't pay you 10 mil, it's 4 mil. Just doesn't work like that. Maybe the best time to sign Oden is before the CBa expires.
     
  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,783
    Likes Received:
    27,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Great move IMO. Assuming Greg becomes a servicable center (12/9/2) that can play 60+ games a year, 10 million is a good number.
     
  4. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I sincerely doubt that anyone thinks that Oden is going to settle in as a consistently healthy mediocre center and therefore trying to put a value on that. The two likeliest scenarios are probably completely lost seasons and healthy, dominant seasons. One is worth $0 per year and the other is worth closer to $20 million per year, so the two parties would come to an agreement somewhere in between.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,783
    Likes Received:
    27,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Likeliest in your mind. Got it.
     
  6. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Likeliest by the evidence provided so far.
     
  7. JDC

    JDC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,501
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Signing Greg semi-long term and hoping he gets and stays healthy is the Blazers only opportunity to seriously compete in the next 5-7 years. No brainer for me.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    56,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    Here are most of the centers around the league:

    -Darko- 4 years, $20mil
    -Gortat- 5 years, $34mil--- steal of the bunch
    -Blatche- 5 years, $36mil
    -Haywood- 5 years, 40mil
    -Varejao- 6 years, 48 mil
    -Perkins- 4 years, $35mil
    -Camby- 2 years, $18mil
    -Bargnani- 5 years, $50mil
    -Nene- 6 years, $60mil
    -Chandler- 6 years, $63mil
    -Kaman- 5 years, $53mil
    -Dalembert- 6 years, $64mil
    -Bogut- 5 years, $60mil
    -Horford- 5 years, $60mil
    -Noah- 5 years, $60mil
    -Okafor- 6 years, $72mi
    -Okafor- 6 years, $72mil
    -Jefferson- 5 years, $65mil
    -Bynum- 4 years, $58 mil
    -David Lee- 6 years, $80mil--- damn

    And for good measure: Aldridge- 5 years, $63 mil.

    Yao and Dwight both got max deals.

    Looking through these numbers, even if GO plays only around 60 games a season with the sort of production he was putting up last year, that 4 year, $40 mil deal seems very reasonable.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2011
  9. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    63,205
    Likes Received:
    22,399
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    Me either. I wouldn't be able to handle that. It would possibly kill my interest in basketball.
     
  10. Chuck Taylor

    Chuck Taylor BATUUUM SHAKKA LAKKA!

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2008
    Messages:
    1,183
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Portland
    this!
     
  11. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,450
    Likes Received:
    4,129
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    Nene's 20.4 PER and solid D at 10M is a pretty sugar sweet deal as well. Since his cancer scare 4 years ago he's averaged 78 games a season so his durability is also a plus

    and to add one to your list, Amare- 5 years 97.5M

    STOMP
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2011
  12. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    56,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    He gives us exactly what we're lacking.

    [video=youtube;IE2G4E16L3Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE2G4E16L3Y[/video]
     
  13. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    45,114
    Likes Received:
    33,874
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Sales Manager
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Solid outside shooting?
     
  14. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    57,713
    Likes Received:
    56,216
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NYstateofmind
    Nah, but like on a few of those plays, he could get offensive rebounds off threes and bang on fools down low.
     
    julius likes this.
  15. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    I just wish I had Oden's career. He's going to make $40 million for sitting on the bench another 4 years. And he'll get to watch every Blazer game from courtside for free!!!

    :clap:
     
  16. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    59,328
    Likes Received:
    5,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Cracking fools in the skull
    Location:
    Lancaster, California
    I am just hoping for Oden to come back healthy, or even 80% healthy with Miller running point. I just couldn't imagine the amount of lops we would have.
     
  17. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    Which is how Crapzano gets 95% of his stuff.
    '
     
  18. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    20,327
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Poster Boy
    Location:
    Blazerlandia
    Thanks yuyuza. Now I won't be able to sleep.

    :cheers:
     
  19. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,407
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Any player you express derision for tends to do very well so, in a funny way, you're giving me greater optimism about Oden's future. :)

    (Of course, a couple of those players--like Rasheed Wallace and Zach Randolph--went on to greater glories with other teams. Hopefully that isn't what your magical powers of being very wrong are going to cause.)
     
  20. Rhal

    Rhal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Messages:
    12,997
    Likes Received:
    2,756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    Portland
    I don't see how you can not attempt to keep him. We don't have capspace to go sign a good center nor do we have the pics and the pieces we can afford to lose to try and get one. Were in a win now mode because Roy's contract pretty much screws us from rebuilding effectively and we have the talent (but maybe not the toughness) to win now. Oden would add some huge toughness and a big body at a position were lacking. Of course if he gets injured again. Signing him to a contract doesn't effect our capspace because well... we don't have any capspace and will not have any for the next few years.
    A hard cap I don't think is going to happen in the NBA. To many top teams (the teams that bring in the majority of the money) have HUGE HUGE payrolls. Only way a hardcap makes sense is if you bring down how much a max contract is and have a way to transition it into place so it really isnt' into full effect until 5 years from now when all the contracts signed under the old CBA have run there course.
     

Share This Page