yeah gotta agree people shouldnt be buying like 12.99/lb steaks with their food stamps. or some specialty kiwi guava organic juice blend either. i would bet switching to the cards had more to do with fraud than anything else though. people could buy drugs with paper food stamps.
this... they still can buy drugs with them by selling their Card I guess... But I would hear stories about with the Cash FS of people sending their kids in to get like a 5cent candy and then getting 95cents back in actual currency.
i knew dealers back in the day that would take food stamps for half their face value and barfo....really? you do that every time you go to the store, put that shit in a jar, and once a week you got 20 bucks
I dunno.. but I assume you could buy a lot of non food if you do that $200 worth of Candy in different stores lol
How much drugs can you buy for $20? I think I'd seriously need to supplement my food stamp drug money with some stolen tvs and shit. barfo
umm, you can buy 20 dollars worth of drugs for 20 dollars... you can argue all you want, ive seen it done
I also agree with this. Just like I agreed that the government should limit pay in companies that took bailout money. I think the government should make foodstamps only work for necessities. I agree with a lot of Maxiep's post. At the same time, I can understand the point of view that the government has no place to tell someone how to spend their money. And while I agree with that in a sense, you have to remember that this isn't "their" money really. It is the government's money, which SHOULD come with a string attached, just like for a bailed out company. Problem is, I see a lot of double standards in this thread, because I know for a fact some people who are for this were against the government attaching strings to companies who had to take OUR money.
Hmm the figure I had was from the Oregonian last year. It stated that at that time that 52% of the people in this state that were employed, worked for the state, the fed or the schools. That was the figure that Lars used in his program and he brought it up to the governer at the time if I remember right, could have been someone else he spoke with , but I know it was the Gov or head of jobs developement ..memory fades as I age..hehe. So yeah., I figured that there had been a loss of jobs in the private sector and more jobs created in the public arena, so I did adjust the figures by three percent..
I don't think more stigma needs to be attached to food stamps or vouchers. At a conceptual level, I do think it makes sense for food stamps/vouchers to only be redeemable for certain things, but I don't see how that gets around the fungible nature of the vouchers. If they can be redeemed for anything of value, an exchange rate in real money can be created for them. I'd be interested in knowing how wide-spread the problem is, though, of food stamps being used for luxury goods or traded in (directly or indirectly) for drugs. I'm sure it happens, but anecdotal evidence doesn't tell us how much it happens. If it's only 0.1% of food stamps being used that way, for example, it's not clear that it's a problem worth overhauling the system to address.
Does that seem reasonable to you? Do more than half the people you know work for the government? I'll do a little more research when I have time, but it seems way off to me. barfo
No it does not seem reasonable, but it does appear to be correct. I am in a collage town, Salem is a state town Eugene is a collage town look at all the state and fed jobs in Portland, look at Lincoln city..the only meaningfully employment is the schools, the county the city ..I know it is a friggen hard to get your head around figure, but that was the point of the article. The people that get all the fat lootz have the power to keep over riding the others that pay for their great incomes.
oh and I must point out, it is not half the population, no I am not counting six year olds, it was half of the people that were employed. So again, look around..state, fed, schools, county..yeah man
There are about 55 thousand federal employees and retirees in all of Oregon. There are around 2 million people in the Portland metro area. It would be great if you could find that article, but I have to think that either you misinterpreted it or it was not a news article but some crank writing an opinion piece. The numbers just don't add up. barfo