Steve Blake!

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  1. KevinJBonn

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    I don't want to talk too much shit about Steve Blake because after meeting him in person I decided to give the Blazers another try.

    But God Damnit he sucks so badly. I was at his 17 assist game cheering my ass off but after that he should have just retired. I love the guy, he was my neighbor for a while, but after the way he's played with the fake show makes me glad we're rolling with Patty Cakes.
     
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Admit it, you only liked the guy because his wife is hot.
     
  3. KevinJBonn

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    I found that out later, and I tweet back and forth with her frequently. But no It was really because while I wasn't paying attention at Saks 5th ave he managed to spend an hour in a dressing room with her before they were married. True story. I can't make this shit up because my friend who worked there pointed it out to me. Charles Smith was there too, although he was busy chowing down on the free food they had out with me.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Dressing room sex is teh best!
     
  5. Ghost Pepper

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    All I can say is Blake is done as a Laker, his playoff contribution has been awful.... No way LA keeps him around to turn the ball over and miss wide open 3's! Last night against the Mavs, he nailed his own coffin shut!
     
  6. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Sounds like many Blazer fans when Blake was a Blazer. Honestly, I completely agree. Something about Blake just choking it up in the playoffs that completely makes his value go way down. He just can't consistently show up for the big game.
     
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    BLANKY had a PER of 15, a Drtg of 114, and an Ortg of 124 in his playoff appearance for the Blazers as the starting PG.

    Andre Miller had a PER of 15, a Drtg of 120, and an Ortg of 102 in his first playoff appearance for the Blazers against PHX.

    Funny, but I don't recall many criticizing Miller for not showing up for the big games against PHX. Throw out Game 1 of that series, and Miller was brutally bad. But, that doesn't count.
     
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    I forgot to add that BLANKY had 0.6 WS against Houston.

    Miller had 0.0 against Houston, and 0.4 against Dallas.

    Plus, Miller against Dallas had a Drtg of 117, and an Ortg of 114.

    Definitely a huge upgrade at PG!!!
     
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    Do you really think almost everyone here just has some agenda to hate Blake? He is not even close to being as good as Miller and that is apparent to almost everyone who watches them play.
     
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    Miller had a negative DWS against Dallas. That's some Big Game ballin' right there!
     
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    The advanced stats show that BLANKY's impact was more important to the team in his one series as Blazer PG than two series of Andre Miller.

    I don't really care about opinions, but I tend to rely on stats to support mine. In this case, stats don't lie! Miller clearly is a downgrade at PG, at least in the playoffs, over BLANKY's one shot as a starter.

    Terrible decision by KP, and the franchise will suffer for years because of it.
     
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    Statistics--advanced or not--over such a short period are all but meaningless. Some advanced stats, in particular, rely on information that will only even itself out over time, so they might even be LESS reliable than the old school ones.

    Ed O.
     
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    So did Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and LeBron James. Not playing in the series, because you're not on the team, tends to limit how many win shares you can accumulate.
     
  14. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The "argument" that Blake is better than Miller because Blake is still playing and Miller isn't is one of the dumbest I have ever heard. By that "logic", Erick Dampier is better than Dwight Howard.

    And, for any clueless morons who can't read, I did not just compare Andre Miller to Dwight Howard. What I compared is these two similar statements:

    Steve Blake is still playing, and Andre Miller isn't, therefore Steve Blake must be better than Andre Miller.

    and

    Erick Dampier is still playing, and Dwight Howard isn't, therefore Erick Dampier must be better than Dwight Howard.

    Both statements follow the same general construct:

    Below average back-up is still playing, and above average starter isn't, therefore below average back-up must be better than above average starter.

    And yes, Blake is a well, well, well below average back-up and Miller is an above average starter - both regular season and play-offs.

    Regular season:
    Blake: PER = 7.5, AST% = 15.0, TOV% = 18.6, ORtg = 101, DRtg = 108, WS = 1.8, WS/48 = 0.055
    Miller: PER = 17.8, AST% = 35.7, TOV% = 16.8, ORtg = 111, DRtg = 108, WS = 7.0, WS/48 = 0.127

    Playoffs:
    Blake: PER = 5.9, AST% = 21.9, TOV% = 23.8, ORtg = 92, DRtg = 109, WS = 0.0, WS/48 = 0.018
    Miller: PER = 19.0, AST% = 32.7, TOV% = 14.4, ORtg = 114, DRtg = 117, WS = 0.4, WS/48 = 0.107

    So, the advanced stats show that Miller is a far, far surperior player than Blake, both regular season and playoffs. It should also be noted that Miller is a starter who logs big minutes, most against the opposing team's starters, while Blake is a back-up who should be able to pad his stats against other, weaker back-ups.

    Miller is so vastly surperior to Blake at this point (and was as a Blazer last year, too), it baffles me how anyone can still, with a straight face, attempt to argue that Blake is better and we should have kept him over Miller. Anyone still attempting to make that agrument is either incredibly stupid, a blatant troll, or both (my vote is for both).

    And, wasn't Miller, due to his advanced age, supposed to decline much faster than the younger Blake? Wrong, Miller performed at his career averages for the second straight year in Portland (the consistentcy of his advanced stats is absolutely amazing comparing his two seasons as a Blazer to his career averages), while Blake's production continues to plummet for the second straight season (and was far less than Miller's to start with).

    BNM
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Steve Blake wearing the piss and purple is the closest the Blazers have come, to date, to avenging 2000 WCF game 7 collapse. Blake may very well cost the Lakers this series against the Mavs (he's certainly not helping them). Well played KP, well played. It would have been a lot more fun to see the Blazers beating the Lakers, but seeing Blake "help" them lose to the Mavs is still good fun.

    BNM
     
  16. maxiep

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    Nate maximized Blakey's talents. PJ has yet to figure out how to best use him.

    I'll say this: I would have loved to have Blake as our backup point guard this year instead of Patty/Armon/Rudy and Roy.
     
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    Ditto.
     
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    The playoffs are a small sample. My original reply was to the poster who said that BLANKY didn't show up for the playoffs as a Blazer. If BLANKY didn't show up, then how has Miller, who has double the Blazer playoffs games, yet worse team stats, shown up?
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Not that I'd ever want to trade with the Piss & Purple, but would anyone here be willing to trade for Blake? He has three more years at $4MM per year. Looking at what the L*kers have to offer, we'd need a third team involved.
     
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    LMAO! Talk about making shit up to try to justify an absolutely clueless postion. Too funny.

    Go Blazers
     

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