It's not their move, it's my move. Everyone says it's their move. I think it's (mine)

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Well I guaranfuckingtee you they don't agree to a deal before June 30th... RFA can't agree to contracts until July 1st at the earliest, possibly much later if theres a lockout.

 

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No, what Oden obviously meant is that he has to decide this summer whether to retire.

 

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What kind of a guarantee are you offering? Whatever it is you'd lose it. Oden wouldn't be a RFA until he signed the one year qualifying offer and until after June 30th had passed. Before then, Oden and the Blazers can sign an extension deal if they want to do so. This was confirmed last week by Rich Cho in a text message in response to a question from the guys on Courtside.

 

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Who is me. Life sucks making millions of dollars. He isn't working at fucking taco bell. He is getting paid millions of dollars per year.

 

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There is a big difference, since Philly wasn't willing to match his offer, plus he was traded to Philly. And all the other teams were trades as well. Miller played and proved himself and Philly was moving on without him. Miller didn't leave because of greener pastures. He left because Philly was moving to the next project.

 

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Well all the more reason to for him to try and maximize the very narrow window of opportunity he has to make money as a professional athlete. I get the feeling that Greg doesn't exactly trust the medical and training staff here in PDX, so if that's true, he may feel he'll have a better shot at playing longer and at a higher level and thus earning more, by going somewhere else (whether that is a matter of perception or a matter of fact remains to be seen).

So you're right, millions of dollars are possibly at stake for Greg, if he's smart he'll make the best possible business decision for Greg Oden Inc. that he can.

 

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So what you are really saying is that the only time it's OK for a player to "move on" is when his team has decided it's time?

What a miserable POV.

 

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They sure could have. But why would you given his injuries? Oden has to prove he can play a full season. Therefore a deal that both sides would have agreed to wasn't in the cards.

 

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Semantics.

Like I said, you're a better person than am I. You're certainly better able to distance yourself from this franchise.

 

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If I recall correctly all Philly was willing to offer him was 1 year at 5 mill and Miller wanted a multi-year deal as close to 10m as he could get. They wanted to hand the keys over to there young PG's and weren't willing to keep Miller there since he would take away playing time they wanted for other players.

 

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I call bullshit to that. Someone is misinterpreting Cho's comments. The deadline for Oden to sign an extension was back in the end of October. If players on rookie contracts don't sign extensions they become free agents; restricted if the team submits a qualifying offer. Players like Zach Randolph who are not on rookie contracts can sign an extension up to June 30th.

 

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Yeah, as a team you have to want Greg and all the risks that come with him to make the offer; if you're doing it just to fuck the Blazers, the bluff might get called and then you're in trouble.

 

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After a review of the CBA, it looks to me like the truth of the matter lies somewhere in the middle. The Blazers didn't give Oden a Maximum Qualifying Offer by October 31, 2010. That means in order to make him a Restricted Free Agent, they have to submit a Qualifying Offer for one year at a set amount based upon his status as a #1 pick under a Rookie Scale Contract. This Qualifying Offer has to be made during the period between the day after the playoffs end and June 30, 2011. If they don't make the offer, then Oden becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent on July 1st.

In addition to submitting the Qualifying Offer during this period, the CBA also allows the team to "elect simultaneously to offer the player an alternative Contract covering six (6) Seasons that provides Salary for the first Salary Cap Year equal to the Maximum Annual Salary under Article II, Section 7(a), with annual increases in Salary equal to 10.5% of the Salary for the first Salary Cap Year". If the Blazers submit the Qualifying Offer, with or without the additional Maximum Qualifying Offer, then Oden would become a Restricted Free Agent on July 1 and the Blazers would maintain a Right of First Refusal to match any offers he may get from other teams.

As far the Blazers submitting Oden less than a Maximum Qualifying Offer (like the 4 year $40 mil contract Canzano has rumored), that would have to wait until July 1st: "A Restricted Free Agent is free at any time beginning on the first day of the Moratorium Period to negotiate a Player Contract with his Prior Team and to negotiate an Offer Sheet (as defined in Section 5(b) below) with any Team other than his Prior Team, and is free at any time after the last day of the Moratorium Period to enter into a Player Contract with his Prior Team or an Offer Sheet with any Team other than his Prior Team."

Here's the link if you want to read the pertinent section of the CBA yourself: http://www.nbpa.org/sites/default/files/ARTICLE%20XI.pdf

 

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Where's Storyteller when you need him?

 

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But never answered my question about what if he signs for less somewhere else? I mean Portland does hold the keys to give Greg the best possible deal; therefor, if another team offers him "X" contract; we match or beat and Oden just leaves; then it turns right back around on this "Millions of dollars are at stake for Oden" you keep mentioning.

 

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Well I'm really glad you think I'm miserable. In fact, I think you are extremely far off on that concept. And if you think all businesses work in this manner, then I suspect you aren't truly a business man. Players will stay in a city when they feel the love. Just like Pryzbilla taking less to stay in Portland. You act like everyone are robots and you just make the "economically feasible" decision without thinking about the "moral compass". Now that is miserable. LOL

 

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How can you leave someone when they don't want you back? If your wife threw you out tonight, would you say you left her?

 

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This is such a run of the mill thread for this forum. Everyone gets all worked up over these things, I suggest you all focus on something that matters. Will Andre Miller get his option picked up??????????????