Owners asking for "Brandon Roy Rule"?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    According to Marc Stein:

    My question is this: would it have to be a player already on your books, or could we trade Roy to another team and THEY cut him? This would make sense for them only if they were trading another player to us with an even BIGGER salary - say, Elton Brand - or we were giving them a very cheap player as well (say, Batum).

    If what I'm suggesting works, then Roy becomes a sort of expiring contract (with the proviso that the other team still has to pay his contract, which spoils it rather, but wouldn't put off owners like Cuban).
     
  2. Natebishop3

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    It would be really nice if we could trade Brandon as an expiring contract of sorts. Sad ending to his career here in Portland, but at least then he would be able to help us get something of use.

    Roy, Camby, Oden, and Batum would be pretty close to matching a Dwight Howard/Gilbert Arenas trade. Magic can cut Roy and Camby and then have Oden and Batum as two nice young pieces. They shed a TON of salary with Arenas coming off the books. We get Howard without giving up Aldridge, Wallace, Miller, or Matthews. I think that's a pretty solid starting five.

    Miller, Arenas
    Matthews, Rudy
    Wallace, Babbitt
    Aldridge
    Howard
     
  3. magnifier661

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    Do you really think Portland would do something like this? Personally I don't. I still think Roy can contribute to this team and even be an allstar capable player. I am homer about it, but I just have this feeling. But I do think if the right deal comes along, Portland will and should take it.
     
  4. BlazersBlood

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    I thought this was originally the Vin Baker rule.
     
  5. Draco

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    I don't think we trade Brandon but we would cut his contract if there's an amnesty clause. Trading him makes no sense since its unknown if he'd still be eligible for amnesty, and in the Arenas example each team could just keep their respective bad contract to cut all the same.
     
  6. BrianFromWA

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    I'm just happy we're not victims of the Ted Stepien Rule.
     
  7. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I think Brandon is pretty much done. He might be able to transform his game into being a catch and shoot guy, but even if he did that, it's about how much bang are you getting for your buck? You can't pay a guy 17 million a year to sit on the wing and jack up threes as a bench player.

    I hope this rule makes it in, it could save the franchise years of mediocrity.
     
  8. magnifier661

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    Yeah if he's a 17 mil spot up shooter than it makes no sense. I hoping for something better and see my keyword "hoping"
     
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    are U serious? if we got a one-time deal to jettison Roy's contract we do it in a friggin heartbeat
     
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    Man that would be an awful trade. Even if you factor in Roy being totally done, which I don't think is going to turn out to be the case at all, having to take back Arenas' god-awful contract negates any cap advantage of waiving Brandon. You pass on the potential of Oden and Batum in exchange for a guy (Howard) who, while a really good player, is in all likelihood going to dump the Blazers ASAP and move to the brighter lights of a bigger city.

    Hell no.
     
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    Even if the Blazers could waive Brandon and have his salary come off the books entirely, they'd still be over the cap unless they dump Miller or Oden. I'm not sure that they're likely to get a player back who's going to have as significant an impact on the team's ability to win as Brandon and one or both of those guys.
     
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    This wouldn't be to sign a free agent in a few months, it would be for a year or two down the line at which point Miller won't be on the books. Camby has a large expiring deal as well, so if they were able to take those savings and dump Roy's contract they would be significantly under the cap. LaMarcus, Wesley, and Gerald are the only contract on the books for summer of 2012 with Gerald being a one year player option.
     
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    Yeah you're probably right. Still hoping that Roy will come out with guns blazing. Still a very very big fan of him.
     
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    yeah i guess i dont see the point in cutting roy unless PA needs the money, which would probably have much more to do with us being "mediocre" in the future
     
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    We would still have to pay him the money, right? I just would be off the books. It's about cap room.
     
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    I like Roy and I am sure he can probably still conjure moments of brilliance on occassion, but there is just no way POR can continue to pay what? another 4 years? of max money to a guy who is not likely to regain his All-Star form.

    If they get an amnesty clause then POR would be stupid not to use it on Roy.
     
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    not exactly...the "allan houston rule" was basically the same thing, but it only removed the salary for luxury tax purposes. i really doubt the owners would want incentive to have more cap room, thus spending even more money.
     
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    God that avatar picture is freaken distracting! You are probably right. It would be a sad way to see him go though. I have a lot of love for Roy.
     
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    That cap space is only around if the Blazers don't re-sign Oden and don't take advantage of Miller's and/or Camby's expiring contracts by making trades prior to the deadline next season. I'm not saying that the Blazers shouldn't take advantage of cutting Roy, I just don't think it's a clear-cut decision. There are opportunities to improve the team without cutting Brandon.
     

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