Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/ce..._answer/?page=1relatively convincing article. Very well written. It also says that KG and Jermaine O'Neal are not for sale. And that Philly has no interest in Wally at all, so a third team would have to be involved unless we want to give up gerald and al.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" I don't agree with this.First of all, from a marketing standpoint having Iverson would be huge. The Celtics have long been a distant third in the Boston sports fan's mind, why not bring some excitement and positive thinking to the franchise by bringing in a top ten player and former MVP, who's a fan favorite and will definitely sell tickets? Having the best guard combo in the NBA will not hurt ticket sales, I would love to see some excitement and optimism associated with the Celtics and I think this would be just the move to accomplish that.Secondly, yes Iverson isn't young, but that doesn't mean he still doesn't have a few more years of superstar level play in him, it's not like we're trading for Chris Webber. He had an amazing season last year as usual, and there's no reason to think that his game will take a serious hit anytime soon. I definitely feel that he could be productive for us, what better combo can you have for getting to the line then Iverson and Pierce on the floor? Those two attacking the basket would create some serious issues for opposing defenses, it would be great to watch.Third, I don't feel that we are in any way sacrificing our future by making this deal. It would bring immediate success which is necessary to keep fans happy in this town, and we would still have a great future in the remaining youth which we won't be giving up. Look at our young players, Al Jefferson, Tony Allen, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Dwyane Jones, Kendrick Perkins, Leon Powe, Rajon Rondo, Sebastian Telfair, Delonte West, that's just an amazing group of young talent, even if we traded half of those guys we would still have a great future with the remaining players. We can't develop all of this youth either, having a mix of veterans like Iverson and Pierce with young guys would be great, and in 3 years we'd be all set with the development of Delonte, or whoever we didn't trade for Iverson. Basically I feel that it would give us sucess now without jeapordizing our future, we'd be great in 5 years too.Just my opinion on things, obviously I would love to see this deal go down.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" great point on us not being able to develop all the talent anyways. We do need to have more of a mix of vets and young players. Plus, i'm just getting impatient, and i want the celtics to win again.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" I very much agree, as does the majority of the city. We need to see some results from Ainge's years here and this would be just the move to bring that.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" I would love AI, but for the right price. I do not want to end up letting go of a Gerald Green or an Al Jefferson and have them turn into a Billups or Joe Johnson situation - turn out to be excellent players 4 years down the road. I mean we are starting to make the same mistakes we made in 2001, trading our young talent to "win now." That's wasting your youth and passing up on some very good players down the road. Sure, I would love to have another superstar in Iverson who gives 110% every night. But just ask yourself this question - does it REALLY make us a championship team? Doubtful. That's my fear, having us make some playoff noise, but never really winning anything. Then, 4 years down the road seeing a 35 year old Iverson, then watching 24 year old Gerald showcase his skills. Or a 25 year old Jefferson as a double-double threat. I'm for this trade for the right price, sure, but if Philly won't take on Wally then don't do it, even if a 3rd team matches up the contracts. That would cost us Gerald definitely, and most likely Big Al as well. In conclusion, after really thinking about it, I'm not sure this deal is the best thing for us at all. I would like to basically stand pat, maybe dump Wally or TA, and let this young core play and blossom. If Pierce doesn't want to stick around for it (don't blame him), then so be it. It's not the best thing for our franchise to trade our two young players with the highest ceilings for a 31 year old player, regardless of how great he is. You want a star? Offer something to Indiana. They just lost Peja, making Wally more valuable over there, then chip in maybe Big Al and an extra player or picks (not Gerald Green) and see what happens. A star big man makes a hell of a lot more sense than a star combo guard like Iverson.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" I don't see this being like a Chauncey of JJ situation at all. First of all, we know how much potential these guys have. Secondly, we're trading them for a legit superstar, not trash.That being said, i will not trade Al Jefferson for him. I would be willing to part with Green, but definitely not Al. Gerald will be a very good player, but you can find scorers almost anywhere in the league. I mean, even Tony Allen in a few years could be getting 16+ a game.And expanding on what Blaze said, there's almost too much young talent here. Gerald would probably shine in a system where there isn't as much talent around him in a few years. Liek you can say, ideally what each of our young guys will average in a few years, but they would never happen as long as everyone was together. They won't be able to reach their full potential in this, well, logjam we have.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" This is article is old, I read it atleast a week ago? You never know though, things might heat up after July 4th..
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" I don't think Indiana is going to trade Jermaine, although if possible I would be all for that deal. I agree that this isn't like Chauncey or Joe Johnson, we're talking about one of the best players in the league, not Rodney Rogers. I don't think that the Sixers would be asking too much in return, to me it's worth the risk of trading Al or Gerald to get a superstar that we know will produce at the highest level, in exchange for a very unproven player such as Al Jefferson. Yes he might become a good player down the road, but we know for sure he'll never be Allen Iverson, even if Iverson is 31 and only has a few more great seasons in him, it's worth it to me.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" Larry Birk told Bill Simmons in person that he had no idea where all the JO rumors were coming from. He said he won't be going anywhere.And since it turns out Philly has interest in Gomes, we probably for sure won't have to give up Al. yessss
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" Turns out Boston mentioned today they are no longer interested.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Boston Herald - The enthusiasm that the Celtics had for an Allen Iverson trade last week has reportedly cooled.?I?m not sure, looking at what we have right now, that this is something we want to do,? one team official said.</div>
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 4 2006, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Turns out Boston mentioned today they are no longer interested.</div>Haha, after so many Celtics fans saying things like, "Iverson will be in Boston next year" and so, this is pretty funny.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" My god. Thankyou. I'm sick of all these Celtics fans saying that they can or will get Iverson. It's not gonna happen guys..
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" Don't get so relieved just yet guys. For one, it's July 4th right now, and no sign-and-trades can be done until the 12th anyway. But as for this article, I see this as nothing more than basically: "they want too much in return, and we aren't doing a deal with there current asking price." Then, you take Atlanta out of the mix because they just got Speedy. The price for AI will lower in time, that's all this is, the current asking price is too high.
Re: Article: "Iverson is not the Answer" <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 4 2006, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My god. Thankyou. I'm sick of all these Celtics fans saying that they can or will get Iverson. It's not gonna happen guys..</div>This has nothing to do with if they CAN get AI, just if they want to risk it. We easily have the pieces to get him.
