Torture delayed finding bin Laden

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  1. MARIS61

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    [video]http://www.democracynow.org/2011/5/4/former_military_interrogator_matthew_alexander_des pite[/video]
     
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    The day after the assassination, Obama said, "Today, America can be proud. This shows the U.S. can accomplish anything."

    That used to be said about the moon landing. Back then, this country's great goal was to do something constructive, a great engineering project. Now, its greatest goal is to assassinate someone.

    In every other war, progress was decribed as the taking of territory. Any deaths were byproducts. They didn't announce, "Our goal is to kill the province's leader, and the side effect will be to take his territory." They used to announce, "We have taken the province, and oh by the way, the leader died in the fighting."

    Now, the blatant goal is to simply kill the unarmed leader, not in battle, but after rousting him from bed. That used to be considered cowardly. Then, try to make HIM look like the coward for how you killed him, covering up your murder of his wife by lying that he hid behind a woman.

    This comes after torturing over a thousand of his comrades to find him. You won't find in history any search for a leader involving a higher number of tortures, or any torture campaign that has lasted almost 10 years. It's as if the goal had been to finish within a decade.

    Osama bin Laden is the Apollo of torture projects. Torture is the technology of the future.
     
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    I think America's already moved on from this to the next news story.
     
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    it's good that Mr. Alexander is "convinced". His opinion has just as much weight as yours or shooter's. And has about the same level of logic and evidence behind it.
     
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    Fuck yah you torture those bastards if it helps get Osama! The way to deal with terrorists is to kill them all.
     
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    I like to watch the lefties squirm over their "change you can count on."
     
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    So can we finally put this Libertarian shit behind us and just call you a republican that has socially liberal tendencies?
     
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    John McCain (a man who knows a thing or two about torture) had an interesting opinion piece in the Washington Post this morning:

     
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    Agreed.
     
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    we should have done that a long time ago.
     
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    I don't vote for republicans, but have voted for democrats - like Jerry Brown for gov. If that's republican in your eyes, so be it.
     
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    You seem to care a lot about labels that you clearly don't understand.
     
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    You seem to care about posts you don't understand.
    Yep
     
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    Bush aide says 9/11 mastermind mocked waterboarding

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2015072235_waterboarding17.html?syndication=rss
    KSM 1, Torture 0
     
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    So you're implying the military's interrogators (which he was) lack credibility?

    Seems he would know a hell of a lot more about the topic than you. Kind of first hand expert knowledge, I would say.

    I guess that makes your opinions on this topic completely useless, since you obviously have less factual knowledge than he does.
     
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    Here was his quote:
    He's guessing, and stating his opinion. That's fine. But I have spoken to actual Gitmo interrogators and their commanders and have heard a different story. That said, I'm not the one who put up the quote of some interrogator's opinion as a fact.
     
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    how exactly did mccain get tortured? always wondered exactly what he went through
     
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    Well, that convinces me. A Bush speechwriter says so! :MARIS61:
     

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