NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2 (Merged)

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  1. illmatic99

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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Oh. If so, then I think Elliot is more athletic, while Brooks is more skilled.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    I also can see us being aggressive, and spending some money on the draft.

    Couple of things one, we can't trade next year's pick, since our 2013 is traded to Charlotte. Also, the Clippers traded their pick to Cleveland.

    But yeah, I can see us being aggressive to get into the lotto, if the price is right. I can easily see us taking on salary to do it, to get someone like Knight, Irving(pipe dream), Kantner, or Biyombo. Looking at a team like Detroit, perhaps. Or, maybe even Charlotte. Sitting at 9. I dunno who we'd target. but Miller, able to be cut right away, for Diop and #9. I know they need to rebuild. However, it's a savings, if Miller is cut, of about 14 million on Diop's deal. WHo knows.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Yes & no. Obviously Irving would be ideal but he's just not even close to realistic. I guess it depends on your definition of a difference-maker and what you're paying to get him...

    If a quality backup PF (Biyombo would be ideal IMO), PG prospect (Walker, Knight, or to a lesser extent -- *gulp* Jimmer), or a dynamic wing (like Burks) were to start slipping for whatever reason and we didn't pay a king's ransom for it (which I don't think cash from one of the wealthiest men in the world, along w/ 2 late 1st rounders would be) then I think that move could make a difference.

    Superstar/quality long-term starter difference? Maybe not. But any incremental improvement - at this point - would be a win in my book...
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Since the class is weak possibly it would be easier to trade up. I would consider going after Jonas Valanciunas. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonas-Valanciunas-5622/

    I still think trading with Washington, taking Rashard Lewis' contract and saving them a lot of money is the way to go. Of course if we drafted this kid, Oden might have a snit and not want to sign with us. Brandon Knight is another that might be available with Washington pick, not sure if he would ever be a difference maker.
     
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    I don't see why Oden would "have a snit". There's literally not a single big man in this draft class who would beat out Greg for minutes if Greg can play. Not Jonas, not Enes, not Biyambo.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Brandon Knight is another player I think would be a difference maker with his ability to finish at the rim and from long range (38 3pt%).
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Maybe i used the wrong word, but i think he might interpret it as a lack of confidence in him by management and therefore be more likely to want to go elsewhere.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Totally agree.

    Not sure how likely it is, but I'm hoping he slips due to teams viewing him as a "tweener" w/out a position... I view him as a Franchise PG that needs a year or two to develop (Westbrook, Conley, Augustin, and Holiday all needed time too).

    If he falls to 8 or 9 I'd be chomping at the bit to move up to get him...
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    I'm one of the biggest GO supporters left, but if he has that attitude it'd seem to be a 1-way street.

    We've stuck by him and shown confidence in him throughout everything he's gone through even though he's shown us almost nothing for that confidence.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    http://www.hickory-high.com/?page_id=1740

    For entertainment purposes only. Your mileage may vary.

    BTW, the closest "similarity" score for Darius Morris is Armon Johnson. I think we can take him off the list! :grim:
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Derrick Williams has the classic tweener game. I'm not averse to taking tweeners altogether, but just something about this guy that makes me shy away from him. I don't think Minny takes him @ 2.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Williams athletic ability makes up for him being a tweener in my book.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    Isaiah Thomas: 5'9" | 5'10.5" - He has the same reach as Chris Paul.

    Kemba Walker: 5'11.75" | 6'1" - Virtually identical numbers to Mike Conley.

    Jimmer Fredette: 6'0.75" | 6'2" - This can't bode well for his stock.
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    DX finally put up their player comparisons:

    Kyrie Irving: Deron Williams

    Derrick Williams: Michael Beasley w/a brain

    Kemba Walker: Ty Lawson

    Jonas Valanciunas: Andris Biedrins meets Joakim Noah

    Brandon Knight: Chauncey Billups

    Jan Vesely: Andrei Kirilenko

    Bismack Biyombo: Ben Wallace

    Enes Kanter: Kevin Love

    Donatas Motiejunas: Pau Gasol

    Alec Burks: Brandon Roy

    Kawhi Leonard: Shawn Marion

    Marcus Morris: David West meets Al Harrington

    Markieff Morris: Rasheed Wallace (w/o the crazy)

    Klay Thompson: Mike Miller (prime)
     
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    IDK, he has that Marvin Williams look (although Derrick's stats are better). Marvin was drafted 2nd behind Bogut, and before both CP3 and DWill in 05.
     
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    While I agree that I'm not sold on Derrick W. yet, I think any comparison b/w he and Marvin is a bit lazy (and I'm not singling you out, yuyuza...I've heard a lot of the talking heads say that b/c he's projected at #2) b/c Marvin was the freshman 6th-man on a championship team that had Ray Felton, Rashad McCants (who I still like) Sean May and David Noel. Derrick as a soph was Pac-10 PotY, and the face of a team that was a bucket away from the Final Four, losing to the eventual champs
     
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    Re: NBA Draft Thread Vol. 2

    DX has posted full measurements from the Draft Combine in Chicago.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre...011&source=All&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=

    Athletic testing results should come in tomorrow.

    The guys that I've liked in the first round I think helped themselves here.

    I was worried about Makieff Morris' length as Marcus, his twin brother, was measured as having only a 6 7" wingspan about a year ago, (which turned out to be incorrect) but ended up coming in at a respectable 6' 9.25" in shoes with a 6' 10.75" wingspan and a 8' 10.5" standing reach. Not great measurables, but not as undersized as I thought he might be.

    Klay Thompson, who I think is a sleeper in this draft might have squeaked himself into the top 10 today. Came in at 6' 7.25" in shoes with a 6' 9" wingspan and a 8' 7.5" standing reach. Great size for a guy with prototypical 2 guard skills.
     
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