Me neither. I want Greg to stay in Portland. Like it or not, he maybe the missing piece to our success. It would be nice to finally get out of this fucking purgatory soon! Sometimes I think Allen must of fucked someone bad to get this much bad luck. LOL
There are a few teams that need a C that would offer him big money to try and keep him this summer if he turns down the QO. As a RFA teams have to overpay to get him and if he thinks that teams will overpay to try and get him then he would be smart to turn down the QO.
Fuck Greg Oden. He's had 3 season ending knee injuries in his short career. Two of them, we really have no idea how they happened, the 3rd, happened when he was jumping up into the air. Greg Oden obviously has some serious physical deficiency. Is this going to magically go away on it's own? I don't think so.
No contending Team has any capspace and very few playoff teams or fringe playoff teams have capspace (Rockets,Bobcats,Raptors,Indiana,76ers) are the only teams with anything to work with I believe.
we're going to either get ass raped with a huge contract or he's going to leave. not extending him earlier was fucking stupid IMO.
Microfracture is very common and is not nearly as bad as having no meniscus like chris paul and brandon roy, so yes he had two microfractures and his knees are actually stronger from it. The third injury is identical to blake griffin's broken kneecap which ended his season also.. So hes had the same injuries as blake griffin and amare stoudamire and ZERO torn knee ligaments and his meniscus is perfect. So you would give up on blake griffin,amare stoudamire and guys like chris paul who has no meniscus? You would be the worst GM in the league.. Greg is only 23 with perfect knee ligaments, get a fuckin grip..
Uh, no. Greg himself touched on this subject, his knee cap shattered into pieces while Blake's had a hairline fracture. Big difference.
Another thread on Oden . . . another bunch of hypotheses . . . another bunch of conjecture . . . and another bunch of guesses, hopes, fears, and questions . . . I've seen 50 threads like this in the last 4 years, and they're all mostly the same. It's getting very old.
Thanks Rhal. My thoughts on these teams re: Oden, if he rejects the Q.O. Rockets: obviously need a center because of Yao; may not want a center who gets injured more than Yao Bobcats: I won't put anything past Michael Jordan, and he may overpay Greg just to get one over on Portland, who would be forced to overpay. Raptors: Definitely a possiblity Pacers: I just don't see it working for either party there, due to the hometown/injury potential issues. 76ers: Could happen, although Spencer Hawes would be cheaper (but without the upside) The RFA options for Oden seem limited, don't they?
Simple solution. Don't read them. I've yet to see a thread that actually discusses what teams this summer could offer Greg a lot of money until this one; have you?
Fucking Win Games, with the best crowd/environment in the NBA. For REAL, God I hate all this he said she said drama BS. You shouldn't base decisions on Rumors. I'm certain, at this juncture, after all that has happened, that Greg has an open dialog with Blazers management and there's nothing left unsaid. You guys are crazy, G.O. lives a freakin MILE away from Larry Miller.
So, you're saying the Oden is negotiating his own contract? His proximity to Larry Miller makes literally zero difference, IMO. Are you suggesting that they get together for tea in the afternoon? Does Mike Conley Sr. tag along with Greg?
I'll also point out that Oden has never said that he wants to stay in Portland. He said "Who wouldn't want to play there?" to Marc Spears, but then he didn't answer the question, and Spears didn't push him for a definite answer. Perhaps he doesn't want to play here.
Perhaps your reaching for straws, what I'm saying IS, that G.O. and Miller are friends. Pretty damn sure they've talked about the situation more than once. If Greg felt 'disrespected' I'm sure they would have aired it out and cleared it up with a simple conversation. You know like big boys do, give em some freaking credit, sheeesh. Their men, not little girls. I don't blame Oden for not answering the same damn question over and over and over and over and over again, especially without even being on the Court. Let the Guy come back and play then ask him how he feels. All the Shit (rumors) you hear are simple business negotiation tactics, We have NO clue what's really going on behind the scenes
Why would you be sure about it? How do you know Miller and Oden are "friends"? Do you have inside info, or are you just making assumptions?
Just assuming the cap stays the same, which is easier to speculate on then making up a number under the new CBA, Charlotte wouldn't likely have enough to go real big(9 a year starting). Denver will have cap space. They'd have Nene, but, could go real big with both. Who knows. Clippers will have the space. They can likely find a taker for Kaman, and sign oden and DeAndre Jordan. Odd to think of Sterling spending money, but with Griffin becoming a star, who knows, maybe they try to make a big splash. NJ has plenty of space, and seems very unlikely, with them thinking of Dwight in 2012. But, again, always possible. OKC has about 8 or 9 under. But if they could pay someone to take Nate off of their hands, it'd open up another 4.5. PHX might be able to shed enough to get close to a solid offer. Sacramento has a ton of space, and could try to make a huge offer, to pair him with Cousins up front, and take the big risk on it. Washington also has a lot of space, and no bad long term deals. Doubtful after being able to dump Arenas, but there are a lot of teams that could definitely take a chance/risk on a big deal, with the lack of good big men. I know not all of those teams are contenders, but a healthy and very average Oden makes all of them pretty close to contenders. Or greatly improving. All it takes is one to take the chance. I'd say he has a lot of options.
The other side for true contenders, though, is that if Oden continues to be injury prone, that money is tied up in a player who isn't helping your team. Also, would the Clippers really deal Kaman in order to pay Greg Oden? Plus, if Oden goes the RFA route, which is what my post was about, Portland can always match, so the above scenarios aren't realistic, IMO. Why would those teams move productive players solely to clear up cap space to make an offer to Oden that Portland has the option to match? If it is 2012, sure, but that wasn't what my post was about. If Oden were an UFA this summer, your scenarios make perfect sense. Since he can't be, I just don't see teams making drastic roster moves in order to set Oden's contract for Portland.
Yes I'm making Assumptions, that's really all we can do, considering our position as fans with little reliable info. With that said, what I do know is how Larry does Business, he's a friendly guy, he keeps people close to him, look at his friendship with MJ, it landed us Wallace. My 'Assumption,' is that there's a reason that the Number 1 pick in the NBA draft found a home right below the President's of the Organization. (Ask me how I know) See the dots here? I'm positive, that over the last three years of trials and tribulations that Greg and Larry have had Plenty of time to bond.
