No Roy Amnesty and Oden will be a Blazer

This firing makes me feel that Allen will not give up on his franchise guard and center. I think Cho was ready to use the amnesty on Roy and play hard ball with Oden. I believe this gamble was something Allen didn't want to happen.

I expect both Roy and Oden to be Blazers for quite sometime. I think the only way Roy leaves Portland is when he decides to medically retire.

 

I never thought they would have the balls to use the amnesty on Roy. Huge mistake, but whatever?

 

They'd be stupid to not use amnesty on Roy if we're going to have a hard cap. At least, if we want to try and have a title contending team.

 

Yeah I really didn't think they would either. I'm curious to see how Roy handles the Summer and how ready he will be to play at a much different role on this team. He has all Summer and some of the fall to get his shit together. I suspect if Roy can't contribute, he will medically retire, IMO.

 

Here is what storyteller says about this:

Interesting discussion here: http://www.blazersedge.com/2011/5/2...-about-the-owners-last-proposal-for-a-new-cba

 

This seems a bit premature. The new CBA is a long ways from being finalized. I doubt either Roy or Oden was part of the Cho decision.

 

yuyuza1, my thinking is that Roy is a shell of himself. He's the ultimate defensive liability and despite his smarts on offense to occasionally have a decent game, is a liability there as well. Bottom line is that we're wasting a roster spot on him and then having to give him minutes due to his background with the team. It's better for all concern for him to retire or go elsewhere. Maybe he can be a player/coach here or something, I don't know.

 

They already played hardball with Oden by not offering him an extension last summer. That ship has sailed. Perhaps firing Cho is part of the damage control to try and keep Greg from accepting the Q.O.

 

I 100% agree with Storyteller. The reason is if we waive him, the only thing we truly get is a free roster spot. We will still be over the cap and the hard cap doesn't even take effect for another 2 years.

 

Roy outplayed Matthews in the playoffs, even on defense.

 

Well, you mentioned "hard cap," so I figured you were intimating that Roy's contract was handcuffing us financially, but that might not necessarily be true (in the near future, anyway).

As for the basketball aspect, Roy had about 3 months to completely change his game and mindset. That transition from a superstar to a role player is not easy, and he predictably was frustrated. I'd give him some more time to find his new game and adjust it so he can maximize his talents. Even if he can be an upper level MLE caliber player, I'd' keep him on.

 

That's what I was thinking. Maybe this was Allen's action for players like Roy and Oden that their owner stands by them.

 

People want to waive the one player on the team that can create his own offense. This place is hilarious.

 

"- In 2014-15, Roy’s contract will be reduced to $14.49 million. There’s a hard cap, so the Blazers again might be limited in what they can offer to other players. If he’s waived, he only counts as $5.62 million against the cap because of reduced guarantees."

Why was the 2014-15 included in the discussion if it is a "Team Option" year. The team is not going to pick up that option year even if Roy returns to allstar form. What am i missing?

 

You honestly think that Portland will not pick up his option if he returns to allstar form? I 100% disagree with that statement. I don't know why we would even discuss it though. I think there is a 0.009% chance of Roy ever returning to old form, unless some major medical breakthrough takes place.

 

I believe the last year of Roy's contract is "player option", not "team option". That's why the original negotiations with him took so long.

 

I've felt since last year that not offering Oden something was a huge mistake. I now think it may have been one of the worst blunders by a GM in recent years. Oden showed that he is a near All-Star caliber player when healthy. This isn't Kwame Brown here, who was fucking terrible when healthy, and probably would have helped his team more had he been hurt.

Meh ... you hire an inexperienced GM from outside the organization, I guess that's the risk you take. What I never understood about Cho was how he was going to take a few months to "evaluate" things before deciding on the direction of the team. If that was the case, then why the hell was Bayless traded for a draft pick before even playing a game with Cho as the GM?

 

I agree. This isn't an "Al Davis" move. Al was never "pro-players". In fact, he benched his star running back for an entire season as a power play. I would never see Allen doing something like that. Hell he even tried sticking with Miles and Zbo for a long while before he finally gave up on them.

 

Last year is player option, but the year before that is a "team option"