Under the law it's clearly self defense, then clearly murder. But only because he's just an average hardworking American. So he didn't have an automatic with 2 extra clips on his belt. He's a pharmacist. With a bad back. Living in a hellhole where young blacks rob and murder honest folks day in and day out. His primary goal is probably to live long enough to be able to retire someplace else. He emptied his gun successfully defending himself and saved his customers from being murdered. He bravely chased the other POS off even though he was empty. It's clear the down POS posed no immediate threat, but the reality is anyone who attempts to kill you will most likely remain a threat to your existence as long as they exist. Wounded criminals not only seek revenge but many have successfully sued the people who shot them. The video shows things pretty clearly. No doubt the punks threatened lives at gunpoint. (At this point their lives lose all value to society, IMO) No doubt that one was shot in self defense and the other ran and left his partner like the coward he is. No doubt the pharmacist shot the downed punk some more. Maybe he was already dead, maybe not, but the world is a better place now that we're certain he's dead. Unfortunately, the 2 people who created him and molded him into a walking nightmare will never be held accountable or prevented from doing it again. Unfortunately, an honest hardworking pharmacist lost his life too.
So we agree--the first time he shot the thief, it was self defense; when he went back for more, it became murder. OK
I believe in an absolute right of self defense. If someone attempts to, or even threatens to kill you, it's fine with me if you kill them. If they escape and you find them 10 years later, it's fine with me if you kill them. In fact, I'd think you were stupid if you didn't. If someone physically assaults you in any way, it's fine with me if you kill them. It's what I'd do.
would he have got as much jail time if instead of shooting him the 2nd time, he fucked the hole in his head? hmmm, the mind wanders
i would rape them first, just to scare off any future weirdos, and then id kill them then id rape them again, and kill them some more, then take a shower and watch some tube
Under the law, yes. If on the jury, I'd give him a pass. It's not like he asked to have guns pointed at him. He's the victim here.
Maris, I think there's a difference, though. If he'd have shot him 5 times immediately, I'm with you. Coming back, I don't think he has any obligation to perform first aid or anything, but he's supposed to call the cops when the situation is no longer life-threatening and he's DEFINITELY not supposed to shoot him again. First-degree murder? That's rough, but that's the law. Would I be up in arms if he was pardoned? Not really. Do I hate that the women were huddled up jumping for joy that this guy was convicted? Yeah, I do. If he doesn't go into the back room for another clip, the kid's probably still just as dead, but he's not going to prison for the rest of his life.
Yup, the fact that he walked OVER him after chasing that other kid was pretty damn condemning. If he was still a threat at that point, he would have blasted him. I'm all for self defense and wouldn't blink an eye in killing anybody that threatened my life or my family's life, but I think that the guy went a little too far. The fact that he stood right over the top of him as he fired the last 5 shots shows that he wasn't much of a threat anymore.
Would you record the raping,killing and then the necro-raping just so you could rub one out before you go to bed every night?
For the most part, I agree with Maris. When a person enters my place of business or home with a deadly weapon it must be supposed they are willing to use that weapon against me or mine. There is no second option. That means that by virtue of him entering my business or home with a deadly weapon he has forfeited his right to live as I see fit so long as I perceive there is a threat against me. I also believe I have the right to judge if this person may be a threat to me later if he leaves alive- whether wounded or not, and therefore if I incapacitate him with a bullet, but don't immediately kill him, I reserve the right to finish him off for my future safety- if I so chose. That may sound harsh or like I'm playing God, but such a perpetrator has no right to live under those circumstances above my own. Again, they have forfeited their right to live by virtue of their intentional actions against me.
The guy obviously took it too far, but he does not deserve life in prison. He deserves to be punished, but nothing close to that harsh. It bothers me that the family of the kid who died celebrates the verdict. They obviously see the kid as a victim, which he is not. He's a scumbag who deserved to be shot. It's too bad he didnt get both of the robbers. They had no respect for the lives of the people in the store, so they lose all rights to live IMO. This reminds me that I need to get my pistol fixed. The slide/trigger is locked and I cant figure out what's wrong.
If he wasnt sentenced to any jail time, he'd still be punished. He'd have to move far from his current home and find a new job. No way he could live a normal life in that place again. He'd be harrassed constantly for what he did.
After further consideration I think I have to take into account a few factors. 1) The guy is 59, these girls that work with him are more than likely his children or grand children's age, he has had a hood rat in a mask times two enter the store, one pulls a gun and his female co workers scream and run to the back of the store. This has to kick in his protective out dated (to some) male chauvinism, so he acts. 2) This guy works in the area, he knows that any response will bring retaliation. Who knows what the other guy said as he ran.."I am gonna kill you cracker" or some such. So might as well send a message, end at least one threat. At the very least this hood rat is never going to pull off a robbery. I give the guy a total pass, and yeah part of my outrage is directed toward the dead criminals family for acting as is he were indeed the victim.
Sucks that the pharmacist lost his head and killed the kid, but I am so happy that piece of shit is dead. Let's go with the tale of the tape Jerome Ersland: Boy Scout advisor Disabled Air Force veteran Vice President of his church Antwun Parker: 9th grade gang member Thief I am only sad he didn't shoot and kill the other piece of shit that robbed him.
I think that the correct decision was made under the law... what he did seems to be murder to me (although not the first shooting). It's sad, though, and society is seemingly worse off for this outcome. A pardon might be the best way to remedy the situation. Ed O.
It shows some of how the legal system has been contorted, when a repeated child rapist gets sentenced to 60 days, and this guy gets life.
The sex offender should be shot 6 times as well. Just be done with these fucking people. He would have been sentenced to life if it had been a black 10 year old girl. The NAACP would have been all over this.
