Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? Do expections ruin NBA player's careers? I think it does, In modern NBA players get everything before it has been earned. How many NBA players get huge shoe contracts before they stepped foot on an NBA court? Alot.Players should have to prove there worth before they receive anything of that sort.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? It's not the expectations that ruin the careers, it's the player themselves. Some people can hendle it, some can't. Most of the time however, ehen players are given everything, they just get lazy. Soo to an extent, I guess expectations add pressure and such, but it is still the player who simply starts playing badly
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? Well..I don't knowBut I must say so far, Sebastian Telfair just cant handle what he's been expected to do. He signed a shoe contract right before he even announced his declaration into the draft. He's really meant alot to NY. That "Through the Fire" movie showed how much pressure was on Telfair, and he stepped up in HS. But then once all the national worldwide pressure got to him..I dont know if he can handle it right now, maybe in the future?
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 2 2006, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well..I don't knowBut I must say so far, Sebastian Telfair just cant handle what he's been expected to do. He signed a shoe contract right before he even announced his declaration into the draft. He's really meant alot to NY. That "Through the Fire" movie showed how much pressure was on Telfair, and he stepped up in HS. But then once all the national worldwide pressure got to him..I dont know if he can handle it right now, maybe in the future?</div>But you can't say Telfair is underachieving right now because Bassy didn't put any kind of expectation on himself, the media/scouts/press did. That's their fault. He has been solid in his first two year. Give him time, I mean, PG is the toughest position to "get" in the NBA, and take into account Telfair is 2 years out of high school and still only 21.But guys like Michael Olowokandi and Kwame Brown - underacheievers. They honestly could both be All-Stars right now with their size and god given abilities. Kandi Man is a good guy, but he obviously is lazy because in college he was a monster and then he came into the NBA, and last year he found himself as the 3RD center on the CELTICS depth chart - and that's not saying much. Kwame has improved since comming to LA, I'll give him that, but he hasn't improved a drastic amount and he could be a real good player by now if he worked hard.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jul 2 2006, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But you can't say Telfair is underachieving right now because Bassy didn't put any kind of expectation on himself, the media/scouts/press did. That's their fault. He has been solid in his first two year. Give him time, I mean, PG is the toughest position to "get" in the NBA, and take into account Telfair is 2 years out of high school and still only 21.</div>Yea I agree completely. But as of right now, or when he was at the Blazers he underachieved. He may be a star, never know...
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? I dont think its expectations that ruin the careers but the players being lazy that ruins them like KMart said. These players have so much talent then when they get so much spotlight before they even play a game in the league they get big ehos and get lazy. That would've been so funny if Nike or Reebok or some big shoe company would've signed Olowankandi to some huge shoe endorsement deal lol. He would've sold like nothing.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? No I don't think expectations ruin their careers. Like everyone else said, just them being lazy does.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? Expectations only hurt a player when he shows laziness/unwillingness to exceed those expectations. Kwame Brown is an example of this. On the other hand, a player like Tyson Chandler is never bashed as much for the fact that he doesn't have those negative qualities that make Brown hated and considered a true dissapointment.Also, I feel you have to give players 5 years before you can say the expectations ruined their careers.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? Only if they can't handle the pressure. They will get booed alot if they turn out to be a bust, but if they play well, then no. They wouldn't take the expectations seriously if they turned out to be good. They would play their own game, and not let fans' or media people's words effect them.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 2 2006, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do expections ruin NBA player's careers? I think it does, In modern NBA players get everything before it has been earned. How many NBA players get huge shoe contracts before they stepped foot on an NBA court? Alot.Players should have to prove there worth before they receive anything of that sort.</div>No........... I think it's that most of those players are over hyped to begin with, and not as good. If your really good enough to get the deal then you must be good. Like Lebron he was as good as people said so everything was cool. But a lot of the times they just think the player is great when they are not. Mostly it's not because they are lazy that they don't live up to the expectations it's just that they were not as good as people thought to begin with.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? that's why i think the nba shouldn't have guaranteed contracts. It seems like it would work much better. Everyone would be playing harder, it would be better for the league. The only thing is, the players' association would probably have to allow it, and i don't think they would.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 2 2006, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>that's why i think the nba shouldn't have guaranteed contracts. It seems like it would work much better. Everyone would be playing harder, it would be better for the league. The only thing is, the players' association would probably have to allow it, and i don't think they would.</div>BINGO. The NBA should be like the NFL. Guaranteed contracts are forcing lazyness.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 2 2006, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>BINGO. The NBA should be like the NFL. Guaranteed contracts are forcing lazyness.</div>Agreed as well. Guarenteed contracts = lazyness. Look how Mark Blount played in 03-04, then he got his 6 year deal and dogged it, didn't even try to rebound (when he averaged 11/7 the year before), showed zero enthusiasm. Tim Thomas is a prime example of this, he does it every damn time he is in a contract year. He plays "ehh" under contract, then when his final year in his contract hits, he turns it on and suddenly plays well. I can't wait to watch the Clippers regret giving him a 4 year deal. Guarenteed contracts are a joke. Take them away and you would have players work harder and it would probably improve their conduct as well.But to really look at the situation, isn't it sad how much a paycheck can effect a player's work ethic?
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But to really look at the situation, isn't it sad how much a paycheck can effect a player's work ethic?</div>*Cough* Eric Dampier's 12 ppg, 12 rpg contract year.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 3 2006, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>*Cough* Eric Dampier's 12 ppg, 12 rpg contract year.</div>Haha, yeah, but at least he is still solid. I mean he at least LOOKS like he's trying out there. Also, his stats are affected a little bit by the switch from the 2003 Warriors to the Mavs of now. Also I just looked at his stats, he played 5 less minutes in his first year with Dallas than he did his 12/12 year in Golden State, and he still grabbed 8.5 rpg. I mean I realize he has been demoted to Ericka Dampier now haha, but he's still a solid player. Overpaid, but solid.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? Sometimes its not just laziness, all players workout, all players practice, like i've said before, great players have that extra drive, and that doesnt mean everyone else is lazy. Also, it comes easier to some people sometimes.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jul 3 2006, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sometimes its not just laziness, all players workout, all players practice, like i've said before, great players have that extra drive, and that doesnt mean everyone else is lazy. Also, it comes easier to some people sometimes.</div>All players may do that. However, It's the ones who DONT give it 100% each workout, practice, and game that are lazy.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^Sorry, but no one gives it 100% in practice.</div>I do, I guess I am nobody.
Re: Do expections ruin player's careers? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^Sorry, but no one gives it 100% in practice.</div>You would know because..?
