Petteri Koponen to be bought out

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  1. Harry's Raincoat

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    No, no such rule. We hold his rights and as long as he continues to be under contract in Europe - nothing changes. We'll probably bring him over in 2-3 years.
     
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    1. The article says that this is a tabloid, so I'm not sure if I believe this is exactly what Koponen said.
    2. He's in the same situation as Greg (although somehow I don't think we expect the same impact out of him) in that he hasn't been healthy long enough to evaluate him.
    3. WHAT NBA teams? As posters above said, if they're REALLY interested, they can give us a call. Somehow I think "interested" means "we'll offer you a conditional 2015 second-rounder" at best.
    4. Chill, Petteri - there's going to be a lockout.
     
  3. Natebishop3

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    I'm pretty sure it's something along the lines of a player can sit out a year and re-enter the draft.... or they can sit out a year and then anyone can offer them a deal. I can't remember which. Either way, he has to sit out of basketball for a year without pay.
     
  4. Pinwheel1

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    I agree with the Euros. The rule needs to be changed. If a guy is a first round draft pick and he is slotted to make x amount of dollars for being drafted in that spot, AND he wants to play in the NBA.........sign him or lose his rights. If you don't think he can play, then don't fucking draft him in the first round. (or in this case trade for his rights)

    On the flip side if you enter your name in the draft, and you are picked in the first round then I think you should be forced to sign that year. (Unless both party's agree to wait.) Don't enter the draft if you are not ready to come over. Either way the international draft rules need to be altered IMO.
     
  5. jlprk

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    Koponen has been with Italian powerhouse Virtus Bologna 3 years and has 1 year left on his contract.

    2008-09: The last time the team played in international competition, in FIBA EuroChallenge.

    2009-10: Koponen was one of the most improved players in the Italian league before a foot stress fracture ended his season prematurely in April and sidelined him into the next season. Virtus Bologna then slid from #2 to #8 and lost in the 1st round of playoffs.

    2010-11: Koponen missed the first half of the season rehabbing his foot, and was then alright but not great. The team suffered their 3rd straight 1st round exit in May 2011...Koponen and Finnish national basketball team face Portugal and Belgium in August 2011.

    This is similar to Rudy missing the first half of 2009-10, then in the 2nd half of that season Nate making him an unhappy garbage time player, and then Rudy's back allowing him to contribute during meaningful parts of the game in 2010-11. In 2011-12, Koponen's foot will probably allow him to get happier, more significant minutes in Italy.
     
  6. Fez Hammersticks

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    Dallas was one team that was very interested in Petteri during his last stint in the Vegas Summer League. Maybe swap Petteri/2nd rounder for their #25 and take a flyer on Nikola Mirotic.
     
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    I vote we bring Petteri over and then Cannibalize his knees for Roy.
     
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    Koponen and a 2nd round pick for Beaubois. :)
    Koponen, Rudy, and a 2nd round pick for Barea. :devilwink:
     
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    Barea would drive Nate crazy.
     
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    All the more reason to trade for him
     
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    Really?
    So POR mgmt would have us believe that Koponen would be WORSE than either Mills or Johnson?

    I find that very hard to believe.......
     
  13. Pinwheel1

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    I doubt this very much. Barea brings energy, he is a pest on D, he attacks the basket, he can shoot from the outside., he can pass.....what part of that would Nate not like.

    Now there are fans who hate short PG's that would think he dribbles too much, but that's their issues. Not Nates
     
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    Rubio just held his press conference 30 minutes ago to verify he's going to the NBA next season. Says this ESPN poster in Spain.

    http://sportsnation.espn.go.com/fans/amy mia jean
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    Ricky just announced that "the sources" are correct. He's going to Minnesota. (I'm in Spain)
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    Ricky's press conference coming up in about 10 minutes. The T-wolves, by NBA rules, can only pay half of the million dollar buyout as is the clause in his Barça contract. I'm interested to see what sponsors are picking up the rest. Seems as if he's coming to the US as something of an "Indentured Servant." He'll be doing promotion for someone in return for their paying his way over. I know, I know, his rookie wage scale won't end him in the poor house.
    41 Minute Ago
     
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    I'm not sure I love the "Indentured Servant" line, since he signed the contract giving him a big salary, but also a big buyout, when he was 17. :dunno:

    He could've said "I'll take less salary, but I don't want the buyout to be a hair over 500k".
     
  16. BrianFromWA

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    b/c I'm pretty sure (though not absolutely positive ;) ) that he made more money last year than Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams and the Morris Triplets combined.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    As an early 1st round pick, his pay must be within a specific range. It's impossible for him to sign for so little.

    Come to think of it, she's right that it's indentured servitude, like in the 1700s. He has to make a couple million or whatever the Europe payoff is, by working for his sponsoring companies for free. It's like living in a company town and you can't get out of debt to the company-owned businesses. Unlike that situation, he'll eventually work his way out of the obligation by making ads for his sponsors, but will it take 1 year or 5 years?

    How much did Rudy have to pay to play here? (Just the payoff to the previous team, not including the large pay cut.)
     
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    he signed the contract. Irish workers coming over to farm the land to pay for their passage to America didn't sign a contract with the Irish gov't making the cost of a boat ride a ridiculously high amount.

    Why did he sign a contract with Joventut (then Barca) saying that he agreed to a huge buyout? B/c he wanted the higher salary earlier.

    I like his game, and I think he has a chance to be great, but people HAVE to get off of this "indentured servitude" or "poor kid has to shill for free to pay his way to the NBA".
     
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    Rudy's portion was 1.2M, I believe.
     
  20. jlprk

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    Indentured servants signed a contract while in Europe for their passage to be paid by their employer in the New World. That's the whole definition of indentured servitude. Poor young Ricky looks so thin and he's going to get thinner. A shame.

    Our guy Rudy did it right. He saved his pennies, paid for the voyage himself, and didn't have to work in the Nike mills.
     

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