Blazer Draft Consensus nearly 100% Set

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  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Yahoo just released their Mock 3.0:

     
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    NBAdraft.net just updated their mock and have Portland taking Faried.

    I really hope he'll fall to #21 but I really doubt he'll get past a few teams just ahead of us.
     
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    Really? Due to his size and playing for Morehead State I think he'll be there for us. I mean, look at Babbitt. A perfect example of a player playing against inferior teams and being picked too high. So I wonder if that will carry over to this draft and cause Faried to be there at 21.'
     
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    for reference, Faried's measurements at the predraft had him the exact same height as Martell Webster (6'6 barefoot) with a 1" bigger wingspan and weighing 5 pounds less. He'll need a Dennis Rodman/Gerald Wallace type motor to get it done inside at that size. I didn't watch him in college, but the draft sites seem united in saying that he's got no jumper to stretch his offensive game outside of the paint.

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    For reference, he does have that motor which you suggest he needs. You don't set rebounding records at 6'6" without it. Watching him play, he clearly puts out more effort than everyone else on the floor.
     
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    But he plays for Morehead State in the feared Ohio Valley Conference against the likes of Southeast Missouri State, Tennessee Tech, UT Martin, SIU Edwardsville and other heart stopping teams.

    Maybe it's easy to see why he gets so many rebounds.
     
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    dude played in the Ohio Valley Conference... that might have a little something to do with it too. I've little doubt he stood out for those who follow the mighty OVC.

    here's a tidbit from his draftexpress page that I find appropriate to this discussion...

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Kenneth-Faried-5325/

    I'm neither for or against acquiring him, as again I haven't seen him play. I'm just playing devil's advocate for the sake of discussion trying to bring up relevant counter points

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    Understood. I was really primarily commenting on his "motor" as you termed it. His rebounding (which, it should be noted isn't just top 100 or even top 10 in the decade, but #1 all-time) was really mentioned as statistical evidence in support of my main comment, which was that my observation--having watched him play--is that he most certainly has the specific characteristic you indicated he would likely need.

    BTW, it's not just against OVC teams that it's evident; he unquestionably stood out in the tournament too, against Louisville (Big East). Most energetic player on the floor, by far.
     
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    I'd challenge that DRaftExpress bullet. At some point on here I pulled the top three rebounding leaders from every year this decade and showed how almost half had "good" NBA careers, not just "made it to the NBA". I'll try to find it, but I think they're doing some creative cherry-picking.
     
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    here's the link they provided as their basis on this

    http://www.draftexpress.com/stats.p...pos=all&stage=all&min=20&conference=0&sort=22

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    I could've sworn I had a more robust list after someone called me out on my exceptions and cherry-picking, but here's a start:

     
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    BTW, if you're into reading the conclusion people draw that don't turn out right a couple of years later, the linked thread is a good one. Pendergraph didn't end up being a Frye clone (my bad), but I don't know that I'm a "chubby chaser" b/c I wanted Blair over Dante or Pendy.
     
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    Then you have guys like Paul Millsap who measured out at 6'6" (But much heavier ) who led the NCAA in rebounding (I think for two years) while playing in the same league as Babitt. He went way too low
     
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    three years.
     
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    Faried plays a lot bigger than his height.

    9'0" standing reach -- 11'7" no-step vertical reach -- 11'11" max vertical reach

    He has Marty beat by 7" in max reach. His weird build/reach allow him to play like a 6'10" player.
     
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    Faried got great rebounding numbers in OOC games against Ohio St. and Florida. I think he's a damn good rebounder regardless of what conference he played in.
     
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    Rebounding is a stat that translates pretty well into the NBA. I'm not sure that rebounding alone makes a player valuable enough to keep in the long run, but I think I'll take my chances with a big-time rebounder like Faried where we're sitting in the draft.

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    Exactly. Its rare you find guys at 21, especially in a weak draft that doesnt have some major flaws in his game.
     
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