Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era.

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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    That's one hell of a man crush you have on LaBron. Does he know?
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    rep'd

    Nice punking of a closet "I want your body, LaBron" Heat fan in heat.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    lebron is gonna give up after they dont win it next year either and demand a trade to the knicks
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    You need to age-adjust your goals dude.

    Well you have a loser mentality, the goal by age 33 is multiple rings. After winning 50+ games for a decade one ring is embarrassing like one ring is embarrassing for my Colts team. The Colts are not a model franchise and neither are the Mavs.

    They're supposed to be the Lakers or Spurs, teams that also won 50+ games over a decade.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    It is about the stupid comments I see around here lately, and the future of Miami.

    Also this thread is about the surprising similarities between two horse organizations. One from the NFL and the other from the NBA. And how unsatisfying it has been to see them win just once, like the Atlanta Braves.

    No thanks and, you keep spelling his name like that..... I don't know why.......

    That's one hell of an ignorant analysis, the guy is younger and the superior player it doesn't take a Doctorate degree to figure out.....

    What the fuck are you talking about "crush"? He beats Jordan at the same age genius.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    lebron is gonna retire if he cant win one in the next two years, hes just too much of a bitch to accept the embarrassment of failure
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era


    Yeah the luxuries of being 27 (in 2012) not 33, and having an entire career better than jordan at the same age. Whereas you suck Kobe off when he wins a title like an inefficient ball hog AI clone.

    Vinyard it isn't my fault you still cling to Kobe/Kidd/whatever like a loser, and refuse to admit his inferiority.


    You'll have to start watching more baseball I guess, the league won't be fun for you. :]

    I'm flattered that you hate us, and some of you are his fans actually.

    Sure, because he's the most hated and demonized player I've ever seen. I'm drawn to that, and I like this trash talk.

    Eh really? Most players don't last that long, especially heavier ones.

    Nah not even close dude. No thanks.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    go blazers
    go sf giants
    go niners

    till i die

    bandwagon fans will never know the pride i felt when the giants won the world series last year, i feel bad for you in that regard
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    Yeah Kobe has two Final MVPs in a 15 year career, that's not LeBron's goal either sorry.

    When you started calling Kobe GOAT ("Greatest of all time") like the biggest nerd ever that's when I started liking James more. I thrive on your hate.

    Nice revisionist history, I was a Kobe fan until you couldn't let it go.

    I've been a legit James fans through his least popular era, so not sure this makes sense.

    Same thing with Kobe when he got bounced against Detroit, and played worse. I was Bryant's fan back then.

    Not really, I said I like individual players.

    But if I did switch teams, good for me not sure why you care so much. Why do I have to be like you? LOL.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    You've been a legit LeBron fan since last year's playoffs when Delonte was boning his mom? Well done sir, you're really sticking to your guns.

    I'll admit to not reading the Blazers main forum, but I'm pretty sure if I went back through with a fine tooth comb, I wouldn't find anyone saying that this was Dirk's era, considering that wasn't even the best in this era at his position to play professionally in Texas.

    I also notice that you like fancy stats that most people don't really go to debate LeBron's place in history over Kobe. Now, LeBron could get there some day, but from a historical stand point, its Kobe and there's no debate needed. I'll let Kobe tell you why.

    I'll continue on with other examples that hopefully will help you understand. Want to know why Tim Duncan is the best power forward of this era to play professionally in Texas? I'm not sure that he can figure it out, but maybe you can spot the reason. Want to know why everyone assumes that stats would show that Bill Russell dominated Wilt Chamberlain? Probably because he needs two hands to carry something. Ever wonder why Michael Jordan is considered the greatest of all time? I'm thinking he's wondering that as well.

    Lets look at football, since you mentioned it and the same argument exists. Any idea why Tom Brady is the best QB of this era? I could think of another reason, but Tom will give you the first two. Curious about why Joe Montana is in the discussion of greatest QBs of all time? Its not his stats, that's for sure. What's the difference between Peyton Manning and Dan Marino? Peyton has an idea what it could be. When exactly did Drew Brees join the discussion of top QBs in the league? I think this was that exact moment.

    Now, this isn't to say that LeBron isn't an all-time great, because he is. But if you're looking at guys at the 2/3 positions, I'm taking Jordan and Kobe before and there are no stats that need to be discussed because those two will be the man on my team and we'll win. LeBron will get picked early in an all-time draft and be the man on that team, but that team isn't beating a Kobe or Jordan team. LeBron is still young and will win a championship or two or three (not seven). He's worthy of being in the discussion with Jordan and Kobe, but he isn't worthy of being mentioned before them (or Shaq, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Bird, Hakeem, Kareem, Isiah, and Magic). Please note that being in the Jerry West, Karl Malone, Elgin Baylor, Oscar Robertson, Dirk Nowitzki range is a pretty huge accomplishment.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    You're so pathetic that you change who your favorite player because of what somebody else thinks?

    Definition of a bandwagoner.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    This confuses me... I'm not knocking it, I just dont understand it I guess. This sort of fandom reminds me of flip flopping on WWF or something when someone turns heel or good guy? Is that an accurate comparison? (not a sarcastic question)

    this also confuses me... it seems that you are more of a fan of the player and drawn to the player than the team... yet refer to the team as "us", again just trying to understand.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    From what I can tell, it's being drawn to players who are irrationally dissed, from a basketball standpoint. I can understand that. I tend to become more sympathetic toward players that I view as significantly underrated.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    I'm with HK... my favorite players are Mad Maxwell, Ron Artest, Latrell Sprewell, JR Rider, and Bonzi Wells.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    I think the reason Pippen became my favourite player during the '90s was because it felt like people unfairly talked down his value/impact simply because he was not as good as Jordan. Of course, I also loved how he played. That was pretty important, too.

    I really liked McGrady, too, because I felt he was not perceived as as good as Kobe (during his Orlando years) because he played for a worse team (read: didn't play with Shaq and with Phil Jackson as coach).

    Actually, I also liked Vince Carter. I think how he was seen as an anti-hero goes without saying.
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    My favorite Vince Carter dunk:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91PHBZOIYOs
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    love the hair, and also a vin baker olympic team sighting
     
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    More like a Frederic Weis sighting... :lol:
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    right... so Hulk Hogan became Hollywod Hogan everyone hates him now.. and he becomes a Hollywood Defender? Got it :)
     
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    Re: Chill out Peyton, I mean Dirk fans. One ring isn't the goal and it isn't your era

    Why do you care who has intercourse with his mom? Are you jealous, are you sexist? I'm confused. :] Who the fuck are you?

    :pimp:

    Agoo this is my time now, your time is over. Whatever your favorite player is he's a has been, and you're a hypocrite because Kobe chokes into titles.

    Oh I have found some people saying that actually. You don't really notice avatars or sigs huh? There are plenty of examples.

    Haha yeah right, first off Kobe's accomplishments are the two Finals MVPs he has over his 15 year career. He was Allen Iverson The Sequel in the first three titles.

    If LeBron Finishes with only three Finals MVPs, more than Kobe and more leading than Kobe will ever know, I'll find that to be a sub-par career.

    So Kobe was three titles better than a young Jordan? Good try.

    Blah blah blah Shaq is a better player than Duncan. Same Finals MVPs and more dominating. And Duncan never wanted to defend Shaq in their prime. Shaq was also the biggest loser getting swept five times before winning in 2000 at age 28.

    Duncan didn't play anyone in 2007 (Amare suspended, Warriors beat Mavs). In 2003 Dirk got hurt in the WCF and the Nets blow. Then he played terrible in 2005.

    Hmmmm........And Jordan was MUCH better than Tim Duncan back in 1989. What is your point? You're like one of those morons that criticized Jordan back then, or Shaq when he got swept in the late 1990s. Your opinion is stupid because Dirk won in one of his worst seasons.



    Oh God shut up already. Big Ben is a winner? More like the classic case of game managing, his teams win despite him. Aaron Rodgers owns him and he has one less ring.

    Aaron Rodgers is a lot more consistent than Brady too the playoff game manager. Brady has terrible post-season numbers, and in his prime. In the end Peyton/Brady/whoever are not as talented as their NBA superstars.

    The NFL's superstars are weaker, the NBA has greater superstars.

    There's this thing called adjusted plus minus it has existed since about 2003. It measures intangible +/- impact on teams, adjusted for teammates and opponents. LeBron beats everyone and he beats everyone in the other fancy stats. He beats Jordan during his ringless phase too so good luck. Jordan didn't magically get better his team got better.

    Kobe played some of the worst basketball I've ever seen against Oklahoma and Boston. Dirk won choking in game 6. You're a hypocrite dude.
     
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