Josh Smith anyone?

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    As long as they surrond them with smart individuals who can hit an outside shot. Like a younger version of Allen, Pierce, and Garnett.
    Smith and Rondo together would need a strong leader to play with.
     
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    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q70


    i always read this to mean cases like millers...
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Miller's contract isn't considered "due to end" since it has another year, and his last year isn't an option, so doesn't qualify that way either. An unguaranteed year is considered like any other year for cap considerations, it's just that the team can choose to walk away from it. The subtle functional difference is that an option requires an action (picking it up) to keep the player, while an unguaranteed year requires an action (cutting the player) to lose the player.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Miller and Wallace for Smith and Hinrich could work from a salary perspective, although who knows if that would meet the Hawk's requirements for the deal.
     
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    Wallace > Smith in my opinion.
     
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    ahh my bad thought it was an option, thats legit
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Probably a better character guy for sure, but overall impact on a basketball game? I don't know about that ...
     
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    According to Storyteller's numbers for 2011, Camby + Miller + Matthews = $25,099,430. Johnson + Smith = $30,683,900.

    That is within 16-17% or so. Is that close enough under the rules? If not, as other responders have said, more filler is needed on our side. That could probably be done. Would Atlanta do that to save ~8 million on Miller next year and ~11 million on Camby the year after that? Perhaps Camby would retire and they would save 19 Million for next year.

    They'd have to be really hurting financially to rip their team apart like that. Perhaps they are.
     
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    Rules say incoming salaries must be no more than 125% + 100K of outgoing. 125% of 25,099,430 = 31,374,287.50. So yes, it's enough (salary-wise).

    Personally, I doubt they'd do it (hence my "I can dream, can't I?" comment). If they did, however, they'd be saving about $17M next year alone (if they waived Miller), and about $86M in overall contract value. That's enough to make any owner at least think about it.
     
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    Wow, good move for ORL if true
     
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    I was hoping for some insane trade like Smith/Teague/Johnson to us for Miller/Camby/ filler. Would make our payroll ungodly but would also put out an insane roster. Oh well Good for orlando.
     
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    The Smith rumors are still out there. If we could swing a trade for Johnson/Smith by sending Camby/Miller/Matthews, the Hawks would cut Miller before the deadline and maybe we could pick him up again in a couple months.

    Miller
    Johnson
    Wallace
    Smith
    Aldridge

    Talk about your running team.
     
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    Is Portland working the phones, or working on their explaination of how they couldn't get anything done.....NOT because PA is too attached to our role players of course
     
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    If we amnesty Roy then I am all for this. I think Johnson would probably enjoy playing with a real PG (like when he had Nash) after trying to do it on his own for a while. And our frontcourt D would be vicious (but a little size challenged), imagine if Oden comes back though! I'd like to have a guy like Turiaf off the bench.

    Our bench would include: Oden (if healthy I'd think he starts and Smith becomes a super-sub), Batum, A-Johnson, E-Williams, C-Johnson? That could use a little help for sure. But I guess Batum would gobble up the 2-3 minutes and J-Smith the 3-4 (if Oden ever gets healthy). With Johnson on the team Batum may be able to play next to him at 2. It'd be real nice if the Hawks waived both Miller and Camby and we could sign them for minimums (I wonder if they would be amicable).
     
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    I'm just thinking this is exactly the kind of "swing for the fences" deal that Paul is looking for. Something that would definitely put us in contention, especially if we could get Miller back after he's waived.
     
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    I think it's going to be:
    J. Smith to Orlando, R. Anderson to Atlanta, A. Miller to Atlanta, and J. Nelson to Portland and Atl gets our #21 pick.
     
  19. Natebishop3

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    The assumption is that Miller would be waived before his contract becomes guaranteed on the 29th of this month. Off the top of my head I think the the waiting period is 2 months to re-sign a player that you just traded, so he could be back on the Blazers as soon as August 29th before the regular season started*.

    *If he wanted to return AND there actually is a regular season next year.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah, just realized that. Deleted my stupid post.
     

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