OT: Cowherd Ripping on the Bobbers

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  1. PapaG

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    'MJ gave away his best two players in the past year, and got an undersized PG and a project for it.'

    'Who is going to score for that team?'

    Biyombo looks closer to 23 than he does to 18.

    I don't understand why people were so positive about trading away Stephen Jackson for Biyombo and Magette, either.
     
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    I didn't like the Biyombo pick, but I will love the Harrison Barnes pick next year for them
     
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    Barnes underwhelmed at UNC for most of last year, and I just don't think he is athletic enough to be an elite NBA SG/SF.

    In the meantime, Minnesota and Cleveland now have competition in the "who will get to 15 wins last" derby.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    If you are rebuilding then rebuild. The Bobcats needed to rebuild and probably will be in that mode for the next 2 to 3 drafts so you have to start somewhere.
     
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    What was the last team to completely tear down their roster like this and become a good team?

    Portland? Perhaps, but the Blazers had a #2 pick and a #6 pick to use as a foundation.
     
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    Oklahoma City.

    They lost Allen and Lewis and sucked but are now pretty good.

    Ed O.
     
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    Almost all teams have. With exception of the Lakers, maybe
     
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    Again, though, the Thunder had a #2 and a #5 pick.
     
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    Really? It just doesn't seem like it to me, in terms of just giving away your two best players. Charlotte will potentially struggle to win 15 games next year, and they already have trouble drawing fans.
     
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    PapaG - PLEASE change your avatar. That face creeps me out!
     
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    Cowherd sure is going after the right team.

    After all, if the Bobcats don't make that deal they would win 30, maybe 35 games next season.
    Pretty much what will happen next year not matter what happens.

    They save 3.5 million, don't get appreciably worse and make a gamble on a guy who might turn out to be another Ilbaka.

    Seriously, if you want slag on a team with regards to that trade it's the Kings who fucked up.

    Then again, Cowherd isn't known for being smart, just loud.
     
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    Seems to me that although Stephen Jackson gives a lot of energy and effort, he is a high volume, low percentage shooter, not really good for a team that is trying to develop players.
     
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    No, we had the #4 only. We traded to get Roy (#7) and traded to get Aldridge (#2). We also used assets named Ratliff, Telfair, and Kryapa to get those guys with our picks.

    Portland, Seattle/OKC, and Chicago have recently done the rebuild thing. Now, CLE and CHA are doing same.
     
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    None of the bolded players combined have the value of Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace.

    I love how because it was Cho doing this, suddenly it makes perfect sense. What in MJ's history says that he's making the right move?

    I'm also aware that the Blazers had the #4 pick, since I posted that yesterday. My point was the "rebuild" started with a #2 and #6 pick (Foye was the 7th pick, not Roy). OKC's "rebuild" started with a #2 and #5. Chicago's rebuild was eons ago, and they struggled for years.

    For Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson, the Bobbers received Bismack Biyombo, Dante Cunningham, Przy, a 2013 first-round pick, and Corey Magette. If the Blazers had done that, there would be a few posters who would literally quit being a fan.
     
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    Yes, and now the Bobcats are in a position to add a top 5 pick in future drafts just as OKC was in that position after trading away Allen and Lewis. Charlotte would be far less likely of acquiring top5 draft picks if they kept Jackson and Wallace.
     
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    Cho had nothing to do with the Wallace trade. I guess he did, but on the other side :)

    And you talk like Charlotte's not going to add another high lottery pick (like Portland and OKC did)... I don't really know what you're trying to say in this thread.

    Ed O.
     
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    What assets does Charlotte have left to add another Top 5 pick?
     
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    I just find it funny how little Charlotte got for Wallace and Jackson. The Kemba Walker pick is also a head-scratcher, considering they have DJ Augustin.
     
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    They will lose a LOT of games. It's their dearth of assets that will get them another high pick :)

    Ed O.
     
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    Kemba could be better than Augustin. The Bobcats need young fresh talent. If you are a team void of talent like Charlotte, you should take BPA no matter what.
     

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