Players that need to take off the diapers and put on big boy pants this next season.

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    Corey Maggette is almost all star level, so Im sort of iffy on that. Brand is the leader of the team anyway, not Corey. Next to Brand, the leader is Cassell as well..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 4 2006, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Corey Maggette is almost all star level, so Im sort of iffy on that. Brand is the leader of the team anyway, not Corey. Next to Brand, the leader is Cassell as well..</div>While he isn't the leader of the team, he's still an important part. All great teams have great wing players. The Clips have Maggette and Mobley. Cuttino played well, but it just wasn't enough. If Maggette can come back and step up the Clips could win the West and the Finals. I disagree about him being a near All-Star calibur player though. The West is filled with great wing players like Ray Allen, Kobe, McGrady, Ginobli, Carmelo, Rashard Lewis, and AK-47. He'll have to improve quite a bit to beat out those guys for an All-Star spot.
     
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    I agree what you're saying, but come on. When a player averages 18 ppg as a 2nd option I dont think it is fair to say that he has to take his diapers off. His diapers were already off a long time ago. He just has to elevate his game a little.
     
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    Maurice Ager - The new, Younger and improved Adrian Griffin?DJ Mbenga - You got your Second contract but R U gonna take some Minutes?Josh Powell and Rawle Marshall - They beasted in the D-League but are they gonna Secure their spot on the roster? is Powell really gonna be Dirk's Back up?Darko Milicic - Had a Good end of the Season with the Magic but will the jokes end this Season?The UTAH JAZZ - You got two potential Allstars in Kirilenko and Okur but will you Stay healthy enough?, with your injury Prone Super Star who can do ANYTHING while he's Healthy?Lamar Odom - 2nd best player on the team beg Kobe for more shots w/o getting shotAntonio McDyess - Have you really returned back to the player you once were? Can you fill those BIG shoes left by Big Ben?Steve Francis - Has the NBA has given up on one of there lil stevie, who use to hide in the shadow of Yao back in Houston Will you be traded again for practically nothing or will you step your game up?Randy Foye - Traded for Brandon Roy, with KG not even making an All-NBA team last Season, a proven Scorer in Ricky Davis, and McCants not playing for a while can you take your Starting spot and lead the Wolves back to the playoffs?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Devin Harris - He does need to be more consistant. I think the MAvs should've let Terry go to give him more playing time.</div> What? Terry is probably going to start next to Harris and letting Terry go leaves us with only Harris at pg and no outside shooting. That would make no sense. Oh and Rawle Marshall will be 14th man again on the Mavs.
     
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    You really think Ager won't get time. Honestly I know nothing about the kid but his stats I've never watched a Michigan State game. I dunno
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You really think Ager won't get time. Honestly I know nothing about the kid but his stats I've never watched a Michigan State game. I dunno</div> Yes I believe it even though I like the pick. Bring in he's a rookie(when Avery took over, look at hard Harris had to play to get time), and the fact he has guys in front of him. It will be hard for him to get time.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 4 2006, 03:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What? Terry is probably going to start next to Harris and letting Terry go leaves us with only Harris at pg and no outside shooting. That would make no sense. Oh and Rawle Marshall will be 14th man again on the Mavs.</div>Jason Terry is going to be making quite a bit of money over the next 6 years. The Mavs could've gotten Speedy Claxton for about $6 million a year, which is less than what Terry will make. Terry is better, but Claxton is the better bargain and Harris would be given more time to develop. Also, the last time I checked Dirk Nowitski was a pretty good outside shooter. You're right about Maggette not being in diapers anymore, but he had a big setback with the injury. I just looked at this as "what young guys need to step up".
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Jason Terry is going to be making quite a bit of money over the next 6 years. The Mavs could've gotten Speedy Claxton for about $6 million a year, which is less than what Terry will make. Terry is better, but Claxton is the better bargain and Harris would be given more time to develop. Also, the last time I checked Dirk Nowitski was a pretty good outside shooter.</div> So what if he's going to be making quite a bit, were over the cap anyways. Cubes just wants to be under the luxury tax and we are. Also, last time I checked one shooter isn't enough, especially when that person is being doubled downlow and taken off the perimeter, ie Dirk. And 6 mil a year is not much then what Terry is expected to make, which is about 7-8 mil a year. Case in point, your point was he was holding Harris back and he wasn't. Because Harris starts with him and this past year, there was no problem in Harris' development.Oh and count in Speedy plays almost the same way Harris does, and we would have zero perimeter threat with our guards. Least Terry spreads the floor and allows Harris to drive, his main strength on offense.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jul 4 2006, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So what if he's going to be making quite a bit, were over the cap anyways. Cubes just wants to be under the luxury tax and we are. Also, last time I checked one shooter isn't enough, especially when that person is being doubled downlow and taken off the perimeter, ie Dirk. And 6 mil a year is not much then what Terry is expected to make, which is about 7-8 mil a year. Case in point, your point was he was holding Harris back and he wasn't. Because Harris starts with him and this past year, there was no problem in Harris' development.Oh and count in Speedy plays almost the same way Harris does, and we would have zero perimeter threat with our guards. Least Terry spreads the floor and allows Harris to drive, his main strength on offense.</div>That's $7-8 mill starting, with it gradually going up as most contracts do. I never said he was holding Harris back, but it's time for Harris to stop being a backup and start. If Terry plays the 2 guard spot than that means either Stackhouse, Howard, or Daniels is on the bench. There are a lot of 3 point shooters in the league that could be picked up for a lot less than $7-8 mill a year, and most teams don't have more than one great three point shooter anyway. Terry's a very good player, but I don't think he's as indispensible as most seem to believe.
     
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    Caron Butler is fine at where he is right now. He doesnt need to average over 20 ppg to show people that his NBA career shouldnt be degraded because he never was a real 'superstar' in the league. Besides, with Jamison putting up 20, and with Gil putting up almost 30, I dont think we need another guy averaging 20 ppg. Caron has done fine, I like him alot more than Hughes.
     

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