Mavs' Rudy Fernandez to Madrid?

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Rudy turns offer down.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6738790

    Dallas Mavericks shooting guard Rudy Fernandez will pass on becoming the highest-paid player in the Spanish ACB, the strongest of the European leagues, to remain in the NBA -- at least for now.
    According to a report Tuesday on the Spanish sports website Marca.com, Fernandez has decided not to accept a six-year, $26 million contract offer with Real Madrid, meaning he will not return to his home country this season, regardless of how long the NBA lockout lasts.
    The 6-foot-6 Fernandez will play out the final year of his contract with the Mavs, and then, according to the report, decide where he prefers to continue his career.
     
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    Not according to that article. It "amounts to $4.35 million a year". "$" means "dollars" most of the time. :)

    And "not too shabby" is an accurate understatement, but for the highest-paid player in league history, I'd expect something more than what, say, Marvin Williams (5 years, $40m) makes.

    Do they do all of that, though?

    And, even if they did, it's, what? Another 40% bump from the base? So a $26.1m deal is the equivalent of $52m deal? Over six years?

    Kirk Hinrich signed for $47.5m over five years.

    I grabbed two random guys off of the first NBA team (alphabetically) who are/have/will make as much as Rudy would have... and they're nothing special.

    I'm not saying that the team is being cheap, and I'm not saying that Rudy would have been dumb to take it--I think it might have been a great move for him.

    I just don't think that it's at all realistic that the Euro leagues could absorb a couple dozen--let alone a couple hundred--players at NBA-level salaries. And the "living like a king" stuff makes perfect sense to us, but we might not avoid places like Utah because of culture shock like many NBA players.

    Ed O.
     
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    I equate it a bit to this, Ed.

    My family has a vacation house in Bocas Del Toro (we will retire in Panama at some point), and we are treated like freaking royalty there. The home we purchased included a maid, chef, and driver. Keep in mind, my family is in no way rich either. It's a different way of life in other countries.
     
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    I respect what you're saying. I just think that the step up you take from upper-middle class in the USA to the same level of wealth in Panama (per capita GDP: $8k) is significantly larger than the step you take as a US-based multi-millionaire living in Spain (per capita GDP: $30k).

    **shrug**

    Ed O.
     
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    Yupp!
     
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    as far as 6/52 or whatever goes, the point point i was making is that that is likely more than he will demand here

    cant really compare their salaries to the nba though, im not sure who did that

    http://www.ballineurope.com/european-competition/euroleague/top-10-salaries-in-europe/

    this is where i got the euro tidbit, but i confused euroleague with acb, rudy would get 3 million eu a year, still the top all time acb contract i believe, but down from top euroleague deals such as Sarunas Jasikevicius (Panathinaikos) 4.2 eu
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I think a crucial issue you're perhaps overlooking is the talent level of the players. Fernandez is actually worse than the players you point out make as much as that contract offer. Has the ACB ever had a player that was as talented as LeBron James, Chris Paul or some other superstar? Should we really expect that the highest contract offered in the ACB should mirror high salaries in the NBA regardless of talent (in evaluating whether Spain or Europe in general can provide NBA level compensation)?

    Lower talent level means less exciting basketball and therefore less demand, lower ticket prices and less team revenue. Less revenue obviously means lower salaries. That doesn't tell us what ticket demand, and therefore prices and revenue (and ultimately salaries), would be if (what are currently) NBA superstars and stars were studding ACB (or Euroleague) rosters.

    I'm not arguing that European nations can or cannot provide a reasonable alternative for NBA players. Just that this contract offer being the "largest in ACB history" doesn't tell us much either way.
     
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    Rudy has nothing to lose by waiting (unless his back completely gives out on him). One would think he could get even more in Spain if he does well in Dallas, especially if he's sporting an NBA championship ring. Or, he may get even more staying in Dallas.
     
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    The layover to Mardrid is going to kill our guys... ;) Oh wait! We never play Real Madrid and the Spanish ACB isn't comparable to the NBA. That said I wish Rudy the best if he decides to go to Spain. I'd take the offer. Better money, easier opponents.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Schedule hasn't been released yet, has it?

    Some people believe that it's actually a much tougher and more talented basketball league.
     
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    Actually maybe you're right, the Spanish national team did almost kick Team USA's ass. Hmmm.
     
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    More perks--1) the season is what, 30 games? 2) This causes more easy days between each game. 3) So compare salary per game to the NBA, not just salary.

    They're working about as hard as a college player: 4) Little time in the weight room. 5) Shorter travel distances because each league stays inside one European country.
     
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    I think Rudy's thought process is that he is with Dallas, the NBA champions. Next year with Butler back they will be more talented than last season. Rudy has as serious opportunity to get a ring with Dallas. Many guys never get that chance. So that may be why he turned it down.
     
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    Multiply those by 1.5 to convert from euros to dollars.
     
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    He's going to be terrific for Dallas. We're going to regret trading him to the Mavs.
     
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    lol why?
     
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    Yea why the hell did we send him to the team that knocked us out of the playoff's? Serious question, what did we get in return?

    Because the Euro owns the Dollar, that we've trashed.
     
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    A PG as good as the one we traded, that also might walk after this season
     
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    I think you are right, but his defense will still be pretty bad. It is a great situation for Rudy. Cho should have traded him last offseason. Even without any good trade leverage it's not like we got anything great for him a year later. Sure we got a late 1st rounder but we then squandered that by, as MM says, trading for a less talented (Ok so MM said they were comparable, I think Andre is much better than Felton, but Felton will probably fit better on this team, so it is probably a wash), but younger PG that only has a year left on his deal. In hindsight I would have rather traded him to the East Coast for a 2nd rounder. At least then we could have given his minutes to someone else. However, if they traded him last summer for a 2nd rounder, I and a bunch of other posters would have thought Cho was a weak GM. I don't think Rudy's a bad guy, so if he has some success in Dallas I will be happy for him, but if we get ousted by Dallas again next year and Rudy's a part of their success, I will be pretty mad.
     

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