Is left us for the Bulls ESPN is reporting. He was one of the greatest players in the history of the franchise and always a fan favorite. He will be missed.But I am really pissed at the same time. We gave him a very good contract offer considering his decline the past few seasons and he went to a team in our division. :ranting:
Awesome, so beings the decline of the Pistons I'm hoping, eliminating one of the two biggest threats in the East.
You guys will never be the same without the anchor of your defense. A tough loss for you guys. I doubt you go back to the ECF next year to be honest..
I can't believe it! After the Pistons gave Big Ben the opportunity to be someone in the NBA he is leaving Detroit(the team that made him). To make things worse the Pistons are not getting anything in return, I think Joe D should arange a sign and trade possibly involving a 3rd team. This can't be happening, we can't be on a decline after being title contendors for the last 4 or 5 years. With the eventual loss of Big Ben, Joe D needs to work his magic and pull off a trade for KG. I know it won't happen but how are you going to respond to a defensive loss like this? Even thinking about geting KG would put the Pistons over the expected cap. I read reports about going after Nazr Mohammed or Joel Pryzbilla but even if they get 1 of the 2 it won't offset the loss. We'll see how replacing Big Ben develops HoLLa baCk
I assume the pistons will try to develope maxiell. Im sorry the bulls have to take over the division. Just kidding, that was a jackass thing for me to say. Good luck though!
Yeah, you jerk. That's true, Bulls are on top of the division now. But don't count us out yet. You think that Joe Dumars will settle for this? We aren't going to watch and wait. We will be active, and we will try to get someone like Chris Wilcox or someone else.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bad BoY RiP 32 @ Jul 3 2006, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't believe it! After the Pistons gave Big Ben the opportunity to be someone in the NBA he is leaving Detroit(the team that made him). To make things worse the Pistons are not getting anything in return, I think Joe D should arange a sign and trade possibly involving a 3rd team. This can't be happening, we can't be on a decline after being title contendors for the last 4 or 5 years. With the eventual loss of Big Ben, Joe D needs to work his magic and pull off a trade for KG. I know it won't happen but how are you going to respond to a defensive loss like this? Even thinking about geting KG would put the Pistons over the expected cap. I read reports about going after Nazr Mohammed or Joel Pryzbilla but even if they get 1 of the 2 it won't offset the loss. We'll see how replacing Big Ben develops HoLLa baCk</div>The Pistons didnt make him.. his will and determination made him.... if anything HE made the pistons... now hes breaking them lol
Chris Wilcox or Al Harrington I hope.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Pistons didnt make him.. his will and determination made him.... if anything HE made the pistons... now hes breaking them lol</div>No, Detroit gave Ben the chance. Ben took it, and succeeded to become a top 3 center in the league, and an allstar.
I know I'm a little late on this topic, but I just rejoined. Although everyone has every right to be angry at Big Ben, you can't deny what he did for us. He was the heart and soul of us while he was here, and led us to the championship in '04. 4-Time DPOY. Without him, we would not been nearly as good as we are. So you can be mad, yes, and maybe hate him from now on, but don't ever forget what he did for this franchise.
The banner might want to me changed since Big Ben is in it. Mohammad though can do a respectful job for Detroit and I say they will win 50 games this year and still get to the ECF and lose to Miami in 6 again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pistonfan11 @ Jul 3 2006, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is left us for the Bulls ESPN is reporting. He was one of the greatest players in the history of the franchise and always a fan favorite. He will be missed.But I am really pissed at the same time. We gave him a very good contract offer considering his decline the past few seasons and he went to a team in our division. :ranting:</div>It wasn't a good contract extension. My heart said to give Wallace 6-years, 130 million dollars. He deserves it for what he's contributed to this franchise. I know that's impossible. But could we at least up the offer to more than what Adonal Foyle got from the Golden State Warriors? Ben Wallace has not been in decline. He set a career high in games played and steals this past season. His rebounding numbers are right in line with his averages since Rasheed Wallace came to town. The difference is, Wallace has been thinking about his decline. He knows that all that blinding athleticism in combination with his power game will eventually leave him Charles Oakley in an era where Marcus Camby has more impact. That's why he set out to be more fundamentally strong. It's why he became an effective - not proficient - post scorer last season. But his attempt to improve the weakest portion of his game was put on hold because of a system that does not value centers. From Dean Garrett to Michael Olowokandi, the centers for Flip Saunders have been happy with four shot attempts a game, and being shuffled in and out of the lineup. Wallace's shot attempts fell to the lowest of his playoff career. He had one game - the last game of the season - above seven attempts from late February until the end of his Pistons' career. I take that back. He went from February 21st until May 17th between 9 field goal games. In Game 5 versus Cleveland, Flip Saunders got desperate. Just for some perspective, Ben Wallace averaged 9.23 attempts in 2003-04 and 8.76 in 2004-05, the two years the Detroit Pistons made the NBA Finals. One day, probably in about two years or so, Ben Wallace will reach the valley of his career mountain. And when that happens, he'll be a 6-7 1/2 rebounder with little else to offer except guile. He'll be Reggie Evans. Can the Pistons honestly say they are better off for the next two seasons without Ben Wallace? Can they honestly say they have more a chance at winning a Championship with their current frontcourt than now? The Pistons may have squeezed a Championship or two out of Ben Wallace in that time. And in the process, they would take care of him in the final two years of his deal the way he made Joe Dumars' job easier by never signing a contract extension or demanding a payraise in six full years. It would've cemented Ben Wallace's legacy in this town as one of its all-time greats. One day, we would've been guaranteed to look up in the rafters, and among the 2003-04 Championship, maybe even a 2006-07 or 2007-08 title, we would see Ben Wallace's Big red three sandwiched between Chuck Daly and Joe Dumars. Now, the likelihood any of those banners will be there is slim. All over some luxury tax dollars, 12 million dollars, and the sign that the franchise honestly valued him as much as the fans. Be pissed. You should be. Ben Wallace is a Chicago Bull. But the source of your ire should not be Ben Wallace. The Pistons simply screwed this whole mess up. The Pistons let the situation come to this point.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pistonfan11 @ Jul 11 2006, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Found this on another site.</div>That's a D-Ball original.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (D-Ball @ Jul 12 2006, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It wasn't a good contract extension. My heart said to give Wallace 6-years, 130 million dollars. He deserves it for what he's contributed to this franchise. I know that's impossible. But could we at least up the offer to more than what Adonal Foyle got from the Golden State Warriors? Ben Wallace has not been in decline. He set a career high in games played and steals this past season. His rebounding numbers are right in line with his averages since Rasheed Wallace came to town. The difference is, Wallace has been thinking about his decline. He knows that all that blinding athleticism in combination with his power game will eventually leave him Charles Oakley in an era where Marcus Camby has more impact. That's why he set out to be more fundamentally strong. It's why he became an effective - not proficient - post scorer last season. But his attempt to improve the weakest portion of his game was put on hold because of a system that does not value centers. From Dean Garrett to Michael Olowokandi, the centers for Flip Saunders have been happy with four shot attempts a game, and being shuffled in and out of the lineup. Wallace's shot attempts fell to the lowest of his playoff career. He had one game - the last game of the season - above seven attempts from late February until the end of his Pistons' career. I take that back. He went from February 21st until May 17th between 9 field goal games. In Game 5 versus Cleveland, Flip Saunders got desperate. Just for some perspective, Ben Wallace averaged 9.23 attempts in 2003-04 and 8.76 in 2004-05, the two years the Detroit Pistons made the NBA Finals. One day, probably in about two years or so, Ben Wallace will reach the valley of his career mountain. And when that happens, he'll be a 6-7 1/2 rebounder with little else to offer except guile. He'll be Reggie Evans. Can the Pistons honestly say they are better off for the next two seasons without Ben Wallace? Can they honestly say they have more a chance at winning a Championship with their current frontcourt than now? The Pistons may have squeezed a Championship or two out of Ben Wallace in that time. And in the process, they would take care of him in the final two years of his deal the way he made Joe Dumars' job easier by never signing a contract extension or demanding a payraise in six full years. It would've cemented Ben Wallace's legacy in this town as one of its all-time greats. One day, we would've been guaranteed to look up in the rafters, and among the 2003-04 Championship, maybe even a 2006-07 or 2007-08 title, we would see Ben Wallace's Big red three sandwiched between Chuck Daly and Joe Dumars. Now, the likelihood any of those banners will be there is slim. All over some luxury tax dollars, 12 million dollars, and the sign that the franchise honestly valued him as much as the fans. Be pissed. You should be. Ben Wallace is a Chicago Bull. But the source of your ire should not be Ben Wallace. The Pistons simply screwed this whole mess up. The Pistons let the situation come to this point.</div>Welcome..... :winkglasses:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Jul 12 2006, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Welcome..... :winkglasses:</div>I recruited him.... :boogie: He is by far the most mature person on this board. If he keeps up this posting his future here as far as Mod spots and V.I.P.'s is sealed.
