Welcome to the Recovery!

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by Shooter, Aug 3, 2011.

  1. Paxil

    Paxil Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    1,276
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Occupation:
    Software engineer
    Location:
    Hillsboro
    Here is an example of how Republicans take good news (economy added 117K jobs)... and put a negative spin on it:

    From http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/05/2012-candidates-jump-on-july-jobs-numbers/?hpt=hp_t1

     
  2. bluefrog

    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    1,964
    Likes Received:
    81
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    Programmer
    Location:
    New Bern
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,976
    Likes Received:
    10,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    300K+ jobs added a month is the significant number.

    Unemployment should actually go up, not down, as long term unemployed reenter the job market.
     
  4. blazerboy30

    blazerboy30 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,465
    Likes Received:
    423
    Trophy Points:
    83
    What are "these tax loopholes" you are talking about, specifically?
     
  5. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    72,976
    Likes Received:
    10,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Never lost a case
    Location:
    Boston Legal
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/44033486

    According to a Bureau of Labor Statistics breakdown, there were 139,296,000 people working in July, compared to 139,334,000 the month before, or a drop of 38,000.

    But the job creation number was positive and the unemployment rate went down, right? So how does that work?

    It’s a product of something the government calls “discouraged workers,” or those who were unemployed but not out looking for work during the reporting period.

    This is where the numbers showed a really big spike—up from 982,000 to 1.119 million, a difference of 137,000 or a 14 percent increase. These folks are generally not included in the government’s various job measures.

    So the drop in the unemployment rate is fairly illusory—stick all those people back in the workforce and you wipe out the job creation and the drop in unemployment.
     
  7. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    28,291
    Likes Received:
    5,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Merchant Banker
    Location:
    Denver, CO & Lake Oswego, OR
  8. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
  9. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    12,405
    Likes Received:
    310
    Trophy Points:
    83
    On Thursday, the market's sharp decline had analysts and observers rushing to make proclamations of an imminent double-dip recession. Writing in the Financial Times earlier this week — before Thursday's mini-crash — economist Larry Summers pegged the chances of a double-dip at one in three.Others suggested that the decline, combined with a rash of punk data, was a sign that the U.S. had never left recession in the first place.

    But this morning's jobs figure, combined with data that was generally ignored among Thursday's market carnage, should lead us to ratchet down our fear of an imminent recession. The economy may have slowed, and the future is uncertain. But if you want a double-dip this summer, you'll have to go to Carvel.


    * * *

    The private sector in July added 154,000 jobs while the government cut 37,000. Put another way, in a month in which Washington intentionally concocted a crisis designed to foment uncertainty and paralysis, companies added about 38,500 jobs per week.

    * * *

    In the panic over the markets yesterday, investors and analysts may also have ignored other data that points to expansion. Consumers account for about 70 percent of U.S. economic activity. And preliminary data indicates that consumers didn't pull back in July. Yesterday, Thomson Reuters reported that its same-store sales index rose 4.4 percent in July from the year before. The International Council of Shopping Centersreported that same-store sales in the chains it tracks rose 4.6 percent in July from the year before. That's a slower rate than has been reported in recent months, but it is a far cry from a contracting economy. Want more? The Institute for Supply Management's surveys shows that both the manufacturing and the service sector expanded in June.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...erns-over-double-dip-recession-141353858.html
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2011
  10. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    Now, for the first time in the history of the United States, our credit rating has been downgraded. This never happened under Jimmy Carter, one of the most incompetant presidents we've ever had, but it's happened under Obama. Ain't it great!

    Welcome to the recovery!
     
  11. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    http://news.yahoo.com/usps-posts-3-1-billion-loss-q3-warns-145707721.html

    But hey, welcome to the recovery!
     
  12. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Tualatin, OR
    There were less people in the work force in July than in June. The numbers are right in front of you. Although I do find the celebration by the Dems of a 9.1% rate appalling, anyhow.
     
  13. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area

    Silly, it's all Bush's fault.
     
  14. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/08/us-markets-global-idUSTRE7725BC20110808

    No worries, folks, all is well.
    Welcome to the Recovery!
     
  15. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,035
    Likes Received:
    24,902
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    The funny thing here, of course, is that investors are dumping stocks to buy treasuries. You know, those treasuries that just got downgraded, causing a market panic? Yep, those.

    barfo
     
  16. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
  17. TradeNurkicNow

    TradeNurkicNow piss

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,196
    Likes Received:
    676
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    hell
    Location:
    shit
    mission accomplished
     
  18. Shooter

    Shooter Unanimously Great

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,484
    Likes Received:
    152
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    advertising
    Location:
    Blazerville
    You must be late to the party. Go back and read my very first post.
     
  19. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,798
    Likes Received:
    90
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    Student.
    Location:
    Miami, Florida

Share This Page