John Paxson is a genius

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  1. streetshox23

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    I have to agree with you balla, he has turned this team around. The Bulls werent very interesting after the Jordan era and now he is bringing them back to repectability. The Bulls now have a good squad and could be contenders in the years to come. Good job John Paxson!
     
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    Paxson has put together a very good team but I still wonder what going to happen when Hinrich and Andres Nocioni become free agents in '07 and Luol Deng, Chris Duhon, Ben Gordon and J.R. Smith in '08. You have to think some of these guys are going to want a lot of money. But Chicago still has a very good team.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Jul 4 2006, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well I don't know about the best young team in the league, but it's one of them.Orland has a pretty good young team, and the Mavs are overlooked when talking about young teams becaus they'e been good for so long.But I'd actually take the Mavs as having a beter overall young team, with the Bulls a close second. The Mavs have Dirk and Terry who are 28, and Stack and Damp, who are just a little older than them, but the rest of the team is just as young. Howard, Harris, Diop, Daniels are all under 25, and with Dirk and Terry locked up for many years at just 28...they'll be contending just as long as that bulls team.Paxon is a pretty damn good GM...but the Bulls still need that NBA Great player...Big Ben will have that impact, but they don't have a Wade, Bron, Melo, Dirk, Kobe, or a player like that yet...I'm not sure if he's on the roster or not.</div>The Mavs are a great team and my pick to be the champions this year but a bunch of guys int heir late 20's(alrady in their prime) isn't young. Look at the Bulls now, like someone said their average age is like 24. And you guys just lost Daniels too. With all those good young players the Bulls will be able to compete for near a decade. The Mavs got half of that.
     
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    Yeah...John Paxson is a genius...picking #7 in 2003, #3 and #7 in 2004, #2 and #16 in 2006...The only genius move I think he's made is signing Andres Nocioni in the summer of 2004. John Paxson isn't a genius, if picking high because your team sucks in good drafts makes you a genius...then...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 7 2006, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah...John Paxson is a genius...picking #7 in 2003, #3 and #7 in 2004, #2 and #16 in 2006...The only genius move I think he's made is signing Andres Nocioni in the summer of 2004. John Paxson isn't a genius, if picking high because your team sucks in good drafts makes you a genius...then...</div>are you retarded?? just becuz you pick high doesnt mean the player you pick will turn out to be a good player. Not only that but only 2 picks that you mentions were actually given to us, the rest we traded for, besides the 16th pick. #7 in the 2004 and #2 in 2006 were both given to us by a trade. You seem to be forgeting all the moves he made. the number two pick he got by trading away Eddy Curry, thus getting a sh*t load of cap space which got us Ben Wallace and Tyrus Thomas from the 2nd pick and also the knicks future 1st pick which could land us Greg Oden. Hes been the GM of this team for 3yrs and the team sucked for 1 year with him as the GM. The Number 7 pick in the 2004 draft came from a trade Paxson made with the Phoenix Suns which landed us Luol Deng in exchange for Vhroman and another future pick. This offseason he got us Ben Wallace and traded Chandler a guy who sucked for the last 5yrs for PJ Brown and JR Smith which will give us more cap space to spend next offseason. Dont forget he hired Scott Skiles, adn as you mentioned signed Nocioni
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>are you retarded?? just becuz you pick high doesnt mean the player you pick will turn out to be a good player. Not only that but only 2 picks that you mentions were actually given to us, the rest we traded for, besides the 16th pick. #7 in the 2004 and #2 in 2006 were both given to us by a trade.You seem to be forgeting all the moves he made. the number two pick he got by trading away Eddy Curry, thus getting a sh*t load of cap space which got us Ben Wallace and Tyrus Thomas from the 2nd pick and also the knicks future 1st pick which could land us Greg Oden. Hes been the GM of this team for 3yrs and the team sucked for 1 year with him as the GM. The Number 7 pick in the 2004 draft came from a trade Paxson made with the Phoenix Suns which landed us Luol Deng in exchange for Vhroman and another future pick. This offseason he got us Ben Wallace and traded Chandler a guy who sucked for the last 5yrs for PJ Brown and JR Smith which will give us more cap space to spend next offseason.Dont forget he hired Scott Skiles, adn as you mentioned signed Nocioni</div>I agree 100%, BCB that was a stupid post.
     
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    forgot the other moves paxson made during this draft. Traded Aldrige for Tyrus Thomas and Viktor Khryapa and he also traded the 16th pick for the 13th pick which landed us Thabo Sefolosha
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Mavs are a great team and my pick to be the champions this year but a bunch of guys int heir late 20's(alrady in their prime) isn't young. Look at the Bulls now, like someone said their average age is like 24. And you guys just lost Daniels too. With all those good young players the Bulls will be able to compete for near a decade. The Mavs got half of that.</div>Weren't the Mavs the youngest team in the West playoffs? I think the average age of their starting lineup is 25.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In regards to a superstar player, we do not need a superstar player. Fans nowdays are accustom to a player dominating and leading his team, but as the current NBA changes, it is quickly becoming more team oriented.</div>Bennet Salvatore and Dick Bavetta strongly disagree with that statement. [​IMG] No star means no ticky-tack fouls, no guy to take the last shot. Even in a fairly-called game it's hard to not have a star.
     
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    Bowles, right now the Mavs only have a few really young, good future players. I don't think they are even close to the Bulls there.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SerbBojo @ Jul 7 2006, 06:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>are you retarded?? just becuz you pick high doesnt mean the player you pick will turn out to be a good player. Not only that but only 2 picks that you mentions were actually given to us, the rest we traded for, besides the 16th pick. #7 in the 2004 and #2 in 2006 were both given to us by a trade. You seem to be forgeting all the moves he made. the number two pick he got by trading away Eddy Curry, thus getting a sh*t load of cap space which got us Ben Wallace and Tyrus Thomas from the 2nd pick and also the knicks future 1st pick which could land us Greg Oden. Hes been the GM of this team for 3yrs and the team sucked for 1 year with him as the GM. The Number 7 pick in the 2004 draft came from a trade Paxson made with the Phoenix Suns which landed us Luol Deng in exchange for Vhroman and another future pick. This offseason he got us Ben Wallace and traded Chandler a guy who sucked for the last 5yrs for PJ Brown and JR Smith which will give us more cap space to spend next offseason. Dont forget he hired Scott Skiles, adn as you mentioned signed Nocioni</div> I think Paxson is a very good GM but calling him a genius is a little ridiculous. People have been ripping off the Knicks for years now (Like Denver trading McDyess for the Nene pick) so I wouldn't call that a genius move, just pure luck that the Knicks would be the worst team in basketball... :happy0144: Paxson signed Tyson Chandler to that huge contract to begin with and got a nutjob in JR Smith (Who will probably bolt after his rookie deal is up) and and aging but amazing veteran in PJ Brown. If Chandler were a $30 million dollar contract I wouldn't have done the deal, I think Tyson and Big Ben would have been a hellova a combo and a hate saying this but Chandler would probably learn a lot from him. Paxson is a smart guy and picked low risk charactor guys from elite colleges the last few drafts... If you guys get Greg Oden i'll petition the league to move the Bucks out of the central.
     

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