Resignation over flawed paper "debunking" man-made global warming

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  1. bluefrog

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    Do you see a pro-AGW bias in your field of study?
     
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    Denny just embarrassed barfo, lol dude chill. Medical Journals and Science journals are often wrong and have to retract their findings. Part of the scientific method is standing up to scrutiny.

    Denny is 100% right on this one. Barfo ignores a very reasonable counterargument made by CERN, NASA, and the UN.
     
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  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I don't have a predetermined conclusion. That's the difference between good science and politicized science. I have little doubt the earth has been warming since the last ice age and that people are seeing this in their observations. It's "the science is settled" declarations that I disagree with. I don't reject any evidence, but I am skeptical of evidence used to make absolute claims when there are alternate viable explanations and evidence.

    The Atlas is a text book. Published by a text book publisher.

    Hey Nik, I wrote about computer models. I did several for the USGS.
     
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  4. bluefrog

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    I was just taking a jab at your post cheer leading for Denny. This is a sports site and trash-talking is par for the course but post like these don't contribute anything to a discussion on science.

    C'mon show your work, man. I'd be very interested in seeing the "very reasonable counterargument made by CERN, NASA, and the UN."
     
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  5. bluefrog

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    Why do you post hight politicized articles on Global Warming?
     
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    I was just taking a fun jab at your fun jab. :dunno:

    Isn't Denny already doing that for me? Looks like he has this locked up, fams.
     
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    Because the issue IS politics, not science. The IPCC is a panel of politicians. Al Gore is a politician.

    It's a big deal when the science isn't truly settled, yet influential policy makers want to do good at absurd cost based on that science.

    Kyoto was designed to kill our economy. Get it?
     
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    And I've tried to be cordial about things. Public figures like the stiff, Al Gore, are fair game!
     
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    This is just not true. There are many scientists on the IPCC panels. There are also politician because the IPCC is mainly concerned with policy concerning Climate Change. There are even people on the anti-agw side in the IPCC. John Christy, a big AGW skeptic has contributed to several IPCC reports.

    I've pointed out time and again that there are vested interests in disproving AGW. There are millions of dollars spent on PR and studies specifically to disputer AGW. A few groups that have spent millions of dollars to influence policy:
    Exxon
    American Enterprise Institute
    American Legislative Exchange Council
    Frontiers of Freedom Institute
    George C. Marshall Institute
    Heartland Institute
     
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    Those amounts pale in comparison to the grants given the other side.

    The contributors to the IPCC reports gripe openly about the politicians ignoring their input and writing whatever they want.
     
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    You complain about AGW supporter`s supposed end game but completely ignore the other side`s agenda. Double standard much?

    I`ve never read anything that supports this. It`s a different argument than you were making before. It`s tiring trying to keep up with the goal posts.
     
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    not as tiring as keeping up with huevonkiller's...um...posts? I guess that's what you could call them. Now THAT is exhausting.
     
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    Bob gets $1000 from selling crack. John gets $100,000 from working as an astronaut. Therefore, John is 100 times more criminal than Bob is?

    barfo
     
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    One wonders why she was (supposedly) considered in 2007. If she's all that, what kept the committee from awarding her the prize in any of the 40+ years that passed between the end of WWII and 2007?

    barfo
     
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    it couldn't have been anything to do with Al Gore winning it that year and a need to discredit global climate change/or how we pollute too much.
     
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