How can you not consider the US a terror organization?

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  1. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    MMA fighter Jeff Monson, who is set to face Fedor Emelianenko in Russia this winter, got into it with retired MMA champion Pat Miletich on Twitter, and here is the conversation.


    JEFF MONSON: The US claims to be land of freedom and democracy yet is set to veto Palestinian bid in UN to become sovereign country to appease Israel.

    PAT MILETICH: Palestinians elected a terrorist org (Hamas) to run it’s affairs and you’re siding with them over Israel? Pathetic.

    JEFF MONSON: It’s the Palestinian Authority going to UN to seek recognition as a state, Pat, not the Hamas. Same process Israel used in 1948.

    PAT MILETICH: PA, PLO, Hamas. All under the same umbrella and dedicated 2 the destruction of Israel. You have sided with the terrorists, bud.

    JEFF MONSON: Recent poll showed overwhelming majority of Israeli’s want peace with Palestinians. As always it is government perpetrating violence.

    PAT MILETICH: Everyone wants peace, Jeff. How do terrorists orgs make money, Jeff? Answer is simple. By continued terrorist acts.

    JEFF MONSON: How can you not consider the US a terror organization? Guatemala, Nicaragua, Panama, Indonesia, Vietnam, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. We’ve started civil wars, overthrown elected leaders, trained and funded terrorists, and presently occupy 2 countries and all in the name of money. Just cause we have tanks & not resorting to road side bombs doesn’t mean it’s not terrorism.

    PAT MILETICH: No country is perfect, but ours is the best there is 2 offer. Your anti-American mentality is what our enemies like. Join ‘em.

    So have the Jews, bud. You support people who hack heads off with steak knives and I support the home team. Stand where you are.

    How’s your gas prices compared to the rest of the world? Most civil wars were gonna happen anyways, but good guys needed guns.

    JEFF MONSON: Supporting the right for the Palestinians to be recognize is in no way supporting terrorist organizations. If you wanna learn about terror organizations read “The people’s history of the United States” by Howard Zinn. Our government is responsible for more oppresion, global poverty, and deaths than any other ‘terror’ organization could ever hope to accomplish.

    PAT MILETICH: So, you’re blaming the world’s poverty on the U.S.A? You’re a joke, dude.

    JEFF MONSON: To summarize, I don’t support terror organizations. You obviously support the biggest one in history with naive patriotism.

    PAT MILETICH: Listen, asshole. If you don’t like your country, take a hike. Simple, bud.

    You rattle on about USA being evil yet you enjoy the fight money and sponsorship our capitalism provides. Walking contradiction.

    JEFF MONSON: Don’t you read any more? US corporations and banks, the IMF, and the World Bank run economies, impoverish countries, and dictate government policy. Maybe when Uncle Sam is done fucking the Palestinians at the UN he can come over to your place so you can suck his dick.

    PAT MILETICH: You’re dead to me.

    JEFF MONSON: I’m a wage slave like everyone else, just trying to do my part to change the system.

    PAT MILETICH: Change the system? Why, so upstart fighters make the same wage as a pay per view vet like you? You’re a clown!

    JEFF MONSON: That’s an expected response for someone that doesn’t have facts 2 what they say. Let’s catch up after you take a history class.

    PAT MILETICH: I can’t figure out if you support socialism, communism, or anarchy. Honestly, I don’t think you know.

    JEFF MONSON: This is what happens when you get into a debate between someone who reads and has a master’s degree in psychology & political science and… the other is a very good MMA trainer.


    VIA TWITTER
     
  2. ktrulez

    ktrulez blessed era

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    monson has a point.. miletich is just ignorant.
     
  3. Chocolove

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    Monson does have a point, but hindsight is 20/20. The U.S went into some of those conflicts Monson mentioned with info that we now know is wrong and fears that we now know were overblown.
     
  4. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Counter-point: Monson doesn't differentiate between the US Govt and the citizenry, which is perhaps by design but seems disingenuous considering his citizenship.
     
  5. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Wait a sec, the guy who was wrong in his history was the Master's grad, and the guy calling him a clown is an MMA trainer?
     
  6. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Yes, but in fairness to grads, Monson is a bit of a lunatic.
     

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