President Obama Cracks Joke About Devastating Texas Wildfires

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    Because only Smokey Bear and Rick Perry can prevent forest fires.

    Damn, I thought that that was a communist who "...expressed his hatred for American society and acted in protest against it. Oswald's search for what he conceived to be the perfect society was doomed from the start. He sought for himself a place in history — a role as the "great man" who would be recognized as having been in advance of his times. His commitment to Marxism and communism appears to have been another important factor in his motivation" http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-7.html#conclusions

    Oil in Vietnam? How far do your tin-foil theories stretch?
     
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    Not by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    Switzerland is a very free country. They were safe from even the Nazis. They don't have troops stationed all over the world. Their highest tax rate is 30% (that's combined state/federal/municipal). They have something close to a direct democracy. Strong civil liberties. Economic freedoms (free trade, few regulations). Their unemployment rate is 2.8%. They run govt. budget surpluses, rarely deficits.
     
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    Get an imagination then.
     
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    When it comes to US history, I'm more interested in true fact than making shit up.
     
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    Vatican City?
     
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    Man, if I've ever needed another argument for how laughable libertarianism is when applied to the real world, you just made it.

    "Let's run a 300 million person, 3.7m sq mile country the way a 7 million person, 15k sq mile country does it. It must be scalable! Heck, we did it 222 years ago, so we can do it again!"

    Wait a minute. Switzerland has a universal mandate for health insurance. Hmm. Are you so sure it's a libertarian state?
     
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    I'm not sure that you can really say they were "safe" from the nazi's as much as they struck a deal with them, were lucky, and there were bigger fish to fry. Also, there's a big reason why they don't have troops stationed all over the world. And not just because you say they're libertarian.

    Their population is under 8 million. It's not like they really can invade other countries, or send their troops anywhere in large #'s. It's much easier for a single country of under 8 million to have a unique or different structured government. I don't think you can compare a country of 300+ million with one of 8 million.
    I'm sure if we were in a similar boat as Switzerland (we're over 250X bigger) I think the comparisons might be valid.
     
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    How can you serve in the military and not know the primary reason why America's most infamous and most unpopular war was waged?

    At the time it was waged, it was referred to by most anti-war protesters as The Standard Oil War.

    And yeah, they've got a shitload of oil.

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=vietna...tnam war standard oil&qs=n&sk=&form=QBRE&qb=1

    http://www.aapg.org/explorer/2005/02feb/vietnam.cfm
     
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    and that folks, is why mook is a better poster than I. He posted what I wanted to say in as little as 7 sentences instead of doing it in a small novel like I did.
     
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    I take it you took history in Public School.

    LOL

    Read the Declaration of Independence some time. It's the quintessential Libertarian document. Regardless of whether it truly applied to all - it SHOULD.
     
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    I do, it's because the "advisors" we sent in to shore up the South from getting overrun by the communist-backed forces of the North kept getting attacked. Your hero JFK didn't think it was about oil.
    And I've never believed that the Jane Fonda wannabes have some magical insight just b/c they didn't want to be drafted.
     
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    How about we run 50 states, each the way Switzerland is run. We have many states with less than 7M people. That's how the country was designed to be run.

    Australia is considered one of the more libertarian nations. If square milage is what floats your boat.
     
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    Whoa....I took plenty of history in public school, and Maris' views don't match with mine (or mine with his, is fair to say)
     
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    But your public school wasn't on Mars.
     
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    20 million.

    not even a 10th of our population base.
     
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    Probably because I spent a lot of time in public libraries after school for a wider variety of thoughts and viewpoints, written at different times in history.

    And because we attended school decades apart. I was taught a different curriculum than you were, and views have changed too.

    What is taught today about most things in history would not match up well when compared to the front page news when they happened. Nor would they match up well with will be taught decades from now.

    The viewpoints of participants may vary also.

    A Marine in Vietnam and an Standard Oil executive in Vietnam saw the war through different eyes for sure.
     
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    Sounds terrible what is happening in Texas . . . worst fire in state history, sad sad news.

    Obama should not be using this loss as a political tool to take a shot at another canidate or party. I know it's Texas and all . . . but still got to show some respect in this situation. He puts himself out there as sophisticated and classy, this was anything but that.

    How many/any deaths over this?
     
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    Seems awfully redundant.

    And boring.

    Why not combine the states into one big state?
     
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    Or you could move to Switzerland, Denny. Wouldn't that be a lot simpler?

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