2 lesbians adopt a baby boy.....6 years later, he starts sex change therapy....

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by EL PRESIDENTE, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, in California in case you were wondering.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html

    :MARIS61:
     
  2. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    37,276
    Likes Received:
    16,162
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    V-Town Baby
    That kid is soooo gonna be gay.
     
  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    50,346
    Likes Received:
    22,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    THEY SAID THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN. WHUT NOW?
    :MARIS61:
     
  4. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,358
    Likes Received:
    25,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    Well, Tammy, the future is really up to you.

    barfo
     
  5. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,725
    Likes Received:
    191
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    dental malpractice claims adjuster
    Location:
    Portland area
    A life ruined. It should be a crime.
     
  6. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2007
    Messages:
    39,365
    Likes Received:
    3,378
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Calgary, AB
    Even though my family is from Berkeley whenever I read an article involving that scummy little town I know it is going to be something redonkulous. At least I can take solace in my complete disregard for other people and their self-made problems.
     
  7. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    45,114
    Likes Received:
    33,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Sales Manager
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Good thing this kind of stuff NEVER happens to hetrosexual parents.

    (8 does seem young, but I wonder what the average age is of someone who is gay/transgendered etc figures it out. Id rather he/she be emotionally stable instead of living the way I think he/she should. Since I'm not a part of the child's life nor do I have the experience of dealing with someone going through this kind of event)
     
  8. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    34,358
    Likes Received:
    25,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Blazer OT board
    The problem I'd have with it is, how many decisions did you make when you were 8 that, looking back now, were thoughtful, well-considered decisions?

    barfo
     
  9. The Sebastian Express

    The Sebastian Express Snarflepumpkin

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    48
    There have been some other stories in the news lately of kids this age beginning the process at least via name-change and dressing (from families with heterosexual parents, oh the horror!!!1!!11!!). Some of them begin taking hormone blockers before puberty to put it on hold until they can start their actual hormone-treatment therapy.
     
  10. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,164
    Likes Received:
    145,393
    Trophy Points:
    115
    It's kind of like when Atlanta Blazer Man shaved off his mustache and softened his name to ABM.

    Next he'll be wearing a g-string and want to be called Bambi.
     
  11. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    45,114
    Likes Received:
    33,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Sales Manager
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Not many. But I knew I liked girls at age 8, even if they didn't like me. I also took counseling for something else at the time that I couldnt put a finger on (at the time). It wasn't on the magnitude of this, but it was fairly adult in nature.

    I really doubt that my 9 year nephew could make this kind of choice, but I don't doubt that some kids know that something isnt necessarily "right" with them, although I'm not sure suppression of hormones is the way to go, UNLESS that aspect of the treatment isnt for years or so.
     
  12. The Sebastian Express

    The Sebastian Express Snarflepumpkin

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    48
    As with all sex-change treatments they must go through countless hours of therapy and see multiple doctors. This is before, during, and after an is a multi-year process. This is also, to my knowledge, hormone blocking and not hormone-treatment therapy which I believe is generally started, at its earliest, around 12-13.
     
  13. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    45,114
    Likes Received:
    33,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Sales Manager
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Liar. It's part of the socialist, Marxist, leftist gay agenda.
     
  14. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,785
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    On one of those Springer (or such) shows, the topic was "people who had sex changes, then became gay."

    I'm, like, they could have saved two moves and probably been better off.
     
  15. The Sebastian Express

    The Sebastian Express Snarflepumpkin

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Gender identity and sexual orientation are two entirely different matters, so no, they probably could not have.
     
  16. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2009
    Messages:
    30,672
    Likes Received:
    8,852
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    retired, while you work!
    Most 8-year-olds dislike the opposite sex, so they should have the legal right to kill the opposite sex, and their parents, too, if they don't get enough I-Pods. Also, to kill their grandparents and teachers. This would be self-empowering so the kid will grow up strong. It's the wave of the future.

    I'm getting into this. Also, 8-year-olds should have the legal right to change their appearance through plastic surgery, to buy a BB gun even if their parents disapprove, and to still wet their pants in class like they did in kindergarten, and to skip baths. Also, 8-year-olds should have the legal right to have as many Christmases per year as they want, and the same for Halloween candy and Easter candy.

    8-year-olds are smarter than you think, and it's a lot harder nowadays to grow up. These kids are a lot more mature than we were, and I admire the asinine legal system for granting them the right to have their own penises amputated. We have a bright horizon ahead of us in our social progress.
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    94,034
    Likes Received:
    57,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    This is a truckload of dynamite waiting to explode. I don't know anything about the family, the boy, or the circumstances surrounding this, so it's hard to get all up in arms. It would be easy to assume that the parents are two man-hating lesbians that have brainwashed this child to believe that men are evil and that he couldn't possibly want to be a man, so the only course of action would be to remove his manhood.

    Who knows, that might be the case, but I do know that there are plenty of crazy hetero parents in this country who have irrevocably destroyed their children, both mentally and physically, and nobody bats an eye. :dunno:
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2011
  18. The Sebastian Express

    The Sebastian Express Snarflepumpkin

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Again, it is hormone blockers, not hormone treatment. There is a difference. Also even though it isn't hormone treatment, hormone treatment doesn't involve the amputation of the penis. She is also 11. Quoted in the article to help explain this to you:

    Many countries have a minimum age of 18 for gender reassignment surgery.

    There is hormone blockers (which this young girl is now on to my understanding, at age 11, to prevent her from going through puberty - all it does is block, once taken off the medicine puberty proceeds as normal)

    There is hormone treatment, which MTF taking estrogen and other such hormones and FTM taking testosterone and other drugs. Here is writeup of the side-effects, and reversible and irreversible effects:

    http://transhealth.vch.ca/library/tcpdocs/guidelines-endocrine.pdf

    Then there is gender reassignment, which again in many countries has a minimum age of 18. Though there has been two to my knowledge to have it at sixteen.

    This is a multi year (near decade, really) process which requires treatment and evaluation by professionals in multiple medical fields.

    Of course some of you can act scared and throw shit against the walls instead of learning about the process because god forbid it is too taboo to understand, or even try.
     
  19. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,783
    Likes Received:
    27,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Many of you may know I am a republican, but on certain social issues I lean to the left. Homosexuality is one of them. I think people are born how they are born, and really don't choose to be any certain thing. I think this child might have come to a realization faster being raised by two parents that are obviously tolerant, and in tune with what the child might be feeling. I don't think, however, that he has decided to get a sex change operation simply because he is being raised by two women.
     
  20. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't see how this is a homosexual or heterosexual issue, it's a parental neglect and abuse issue. These parents are more whacked out than "faith healers", imo, b/c at least the faith-healing whackos are making their decisions as adults (however whacked-out the decision may be). These parents are letting a child decide "...if he wants to fully transition to being female or go through puberty as a boy." While jlprk's tongue-in-cheek response is a tad hyperbolic, it's not that far from the truth.

    So to get this straight in my head, someone please tell me if any of the following are not factually correct.
    1) A child cannot vote until they are 18.
    2) A child cannot drive until they are 18 or watch pornographic movies.
    3) The age of consent in the UK is 16, but if you're under 18, there are people the government legislates that you're not allowed to have sex with.
    4) A child cannot enter into a legal contract until they are 18.
    5) A child cannot be civilly liable or access adoption records until they're 18.
    6) In the UK, a child cannot get plastic surgery or a tattoo until 16 with parental consent, 18 otherwise.

    These laws explicitly state that a minor does not have the mental capacity to be civilly liable or accountable for their actions until age 18, or able to make personal decisions of sexuality, consumption or bodily enhancement until 16 even with parental consent. Yet this child is supposedly able to not only make the decision that he wants to be a she, but to start taking medication that postpones puberty until he has "...time to figure out" what he wants to do.

    Since the age that the UK stipulates he can legally "figure out" what he wants to do with parental consent is 16, it sounds like his parents are allowing him to take medication/hormone blocking treatment that means he won't go through puberty until 16. I struggle to imagine that any "professional in multiple medical fields" will grant that that's a healthy, acceptable course of action for a child with identity issues. In fact, I would go out on a limb and surmise that if there were parents who were putting their children on hormone therapy regardless of the child's desire (remember, a child under 16 doesn't have the legal right to make decisions) in order to postpone puberty until 16 would be charged with child abuse.

    Additionally, I don't understand why you keep calling the child a girl, TSE.
     

Share This Page