2 lesbians adopt a baby boy.....6 years later, he starts sex change therapy....

Curse you reply to thread red button that I keep hitting on accident.

I'm sure you understand one weekend and one group amongst other GLBT does not mean they do not experience harassment and misunderstanding in general and daily life (from both heterosexuals and other members of the queer community). I could attend a GLBT event and be happy (I mean, -I- wouldn't because I hate gatherings, but we'll suspend reality for a moment), but it doesn't mean I still wont hear over a hundred gay slurs a day just casually tossed about; that certainly gets me down from time to time.

Harassment and misunderstanding of Trans people is very much a real thing - subtle or overt or general throwing under the bus - by people of all groups.

 

Meanness is a terrible thing. See: Race; Disabilities; Intelligence; Attractiveness; Weight; Sexual Orientation; Rednecks (OK, I can see that ); Lack Of Wealth; Political Persuasion; Religion;......the list goes on an on............

There are a lot of angry people out there. It sucks.

 

SlyPokerDog is a dick

 

I've never understand why people bring up the fact that someone is a mod in a debate like this. Mods are not without opinion or belief (Denny Crane should be proof of that). The only behavior that I would think warrants questioning of someone's ability to mod would be personally attacking other posters or abusing the power that goes with the position. I think Brian is well within his rights to post his opinions on this topic, and just because you disagree with him doesn't make him wrong or you right.

Brian is questioning the legality of this story. I don't blame him for that. I too am wondering if it is legal for a child of that age to have major life-changing procedures that are not required for their health (IE keep them from dying). Similarly I would be against a child having cosmetic surgery at that age, whether it's a nose job, boob job, etc. Kids that age are far too young to make major decisions of that magnitude.

Life sucks, we all go through pain and question who we are and what we are doing here. That's not reserved for gay children. I understand that it is hard for kids that are gay because they don't feel like they are accepted or that they belong, but that too is not reserved entirely for gay kids. I've seen straight kids take unbelievable amounts of physical and verbal abuse for simply being different. I've seen kids tormented relentlessly because the other children got enjoyment out of it. We must all find strength, even at that age, to make it through those tough times and grow stronger from it. It's what makes us who we are when we get older.

 

Amen. I mean, could you just imagine barfo as a child?

 

I question why he is a mod when this is not the first time he has tried to made subtle connections of homosexuality/queer people to pedophiles/pedophilia, in addition to some other unrelated incidents. I have no problem admitting that makes me very angry.

I do not mind disagreements. I do not mind him questioning the legality of the treatment. (You will see my main problem with his original post was his comments calling the child a boy and asking why other people would ever refer to the child as a girl).

I don't have a problem with hormone blockers to stall puberty. I, personally, do not think hormone treatment (different than blocking) should begin until at the very earliest of 16. I do not think gender reassignment surgery should happen until 18. The only points I was making earlier was this is not just some random and rapid decision making - people who undergo this treatment and process have years, near a decade if not more, in therapy consulting with a number of professionals in multiple medical fields. This isn't an eight (eleven) year old getting his (her) penis amputated (as was suggested) because he (she) decided "eh, feel like a girl, don't want the dangly bits anymore, where the scissors at" and parents and professionals going "eh, better give him (her) a sterilized set of scissors".

I too am against children having cosmetic surgery unless absolutely necessary (septum problems, obviously anything under traumatic accidents which cause physical dis-figuration or severe burns).

I have never said people/children do not get bullied on a while. However minorities of any category are a very easy target for bullying so the person being the bully can 'try to fit in' and prove how normal they are, and how different their victim is. Also, it is far more than needing to find strength to make it through tough times. We as adults now and those who are older than us must teach children/people that this is unacceptable. It very much affects a person's quality of life and it is harrowing and a great loss when a person commits suicide because people around them bully and harass them in an attempt to make themselves feel better.

It wears a person down who has to hear slurs hundreds of times a day (and I assure you this does happen, because they are so casually thrown about). The mind is a funny thing how it can turn against you when you hear so many other people say something negative about an aspect of you (gay, person of color, etc).

 

I'm pretty sure barfo is ageless and without peer. Possibly having experience real-life carbon-freeze.

 

No doubt.

Hey, I've always maintained, when in doubt, pick on barfo.........or Sly.

 

Only one of you rigged the election. Sly.

 

Somehow that makes perfect sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder

 

Ridiculous. Those parents should be sent to jail.

 

Now that children have the legal right to change gender, do they and adults have the legal right to have sex together? Children are now adults, right? If mere children are granted the Solomonic power to change gender, why should any lesser decision be legally denied them (e.g. drinking, sex, smoking, drugs, kicking the teacher in the shin)? What if an 8 or 11 year old wants to take hormones to stay 3 feet tall all his life, because his favorite character is Mickey Mouse? Should he have the legal right to start the hormones?

I'll ask the same in the converse. What rights do children not have, if they already have the legal right to make the biggest decision in their lives (which would intimidate anyone at any age)? Can you list the rights children do not have?

If children acquire this right, it will contradict all existing limitations upon their legal powers. Legislators will have to revisit legal distinctions between adult and child in every law.

 

Sorry the part about the abuse wasn't aimed at you. Just thinking out loud.

I understand what you're saying, but I still think that Brian is entitled to his opinion and unless he is personally attacking you or abusing his power, the guy is a very good mod. I can understand being frustrated though. There's plenty of posters that annoy me too