The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    If my math is correct, 17 games is the number that the players will come out behind on money issues. If the players miss 17 games, they will have lost this labor negotiation because there is no way for them to ever make that money up
     
  2. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    I agree. However listening to the whole press conference last night on NBA TV. Silver kept emphasing that there were other issues that need to be discussed even if the BRI split was aggreed upon. Not sure what those issues are, so it is hard to know how close they really are. But it sounds close.
     
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    Wow, the owners capitulated but the players still refuse. No hard cap, no non guaranteed contracts, no amnesty clause.... and the players turned them down flat.

    I never thought I'd see that.
     
  5. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I did not hear or see the "no amnesty clause" part, are you sure on this?
     
  7. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I had thought both owners and players were on board with the amnesty clause?
     
  8. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You don't get it, the "public opinion battle" means fuck all in this situation. The leauge's popularity taking a hit damages both sides equally.
     
  9. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    The Super Seven agents are working on details of a conference call this afternoon to discuss CBA, sources tell @CBSSports.
     
  10. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Call would be among agents who wrote to clients over the weekend: Tellem, Duffy, Bartelstein, Fegan, Schwartz, Rose and Thomas.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    SpearsNBAYahoo............

    One prominent agent: "Stern & Billy will talk over the weekend without antics and get down to it."
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Broussard...........

    Source says Rip Hamilton told his agent Leon Rose he's upset Rose participated in letter, which is perceived by many as anti-union.
     
  13. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Source adds that Rip told Rose he'll leave & take other players with him if Rose doesn't leave the "anti-union" group.
     
  14. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    http://ht.cdn.turner.com/si/nba/NBPAletter.pdf

     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    sam_amick............

    Also interesting re: @Chris_Broussard tweets about Rip Hamilton. Rival agent says Rip has significant influence on many of Rose's clients.
     
  16. Mediocre Man

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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    This whole de-certification thing by the agents reminds me something Ari Gold would do.
     
  18. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    The NBPA sent a letter to its players on Wednesday to update them on labor talks.

    "Yesterday, the owners gave us an opportunity to back down," wrote Derek Fisher and Billy Hunter. "We refused.

    Hunter reminds players have have offered owners a giveback of $185 million per year, which is worth $1.1 billion over six years.

    "Reducing our share of BRI by seven points to 50%, a level we have not received since the early 1990s, is not a fair split."

    No further meetings are currently scheduled.

    "The clear message we have received from the players, and the one we will heed, is not to back down."

    Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports (via Twitter)


    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/215877/Union_Letter_We_Refused_To_Back_Down#ixzz1Zw0r89XZ
     
  19. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Jared Jeffries was really optimistic on radio that a deal could get done this week. He mentioned that there could be a difference of about $120-150 mil annually.

    That works out to like 4-5 mil per team. Do guys like PA, or Cuban, or Buss really give a shit about that?

    Link: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7063282&s=espn
     
  20. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Otoh, they would lose about ~$200 mil total by locking out the exhibition games.

    Maybe I'm being naiive here, but this doesn't work out.
     

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