Perry supporter says Romney's religion 'a cult'

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  1. ABM

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    It is. :lol:

    Guess what? The Mormons teach that Christianity is a cult......and so do Jehovah's Witnesses.......and Muslims (oops, they call Christians infidels, but, I digress... ;) )

    So, there ya have it, sports fans....
     
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    I'm barfo, and I endorse this message.

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    Why? Has something about the New Testament changed lately?

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    Are you starting yet another pithy match?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You know me.

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    Sometimes, I wish I did. Not quite sure how/why, but, I'm sure my life, somehow, would be enhanced.

    One thing's for sure.....you definitely have a cult following.
     
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    An extra 6", guaranteed.

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    I've heard it said that some people miss heaven by about 6". The distance between their head and their heart.
     
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    Those must be fucking short people. The distance between my head (even assuming it isn't up my ass) and my heart (assuming I actually have one) is greater than that.

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    Thanks SPD! Maybe one of these days I can be more involved in posting on more sports related things, but for now, I'll continue to post what I know.
     
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    Notice I said 'about'. Just for you, barfo. :)
     
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    Oh, you'd like to debate the meaning of about?

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    Most men do. Yet, invariably, it's rarely what they say it is.

    I'll take a rain check. Thanks all the same.
     
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    I should have probably started by saying I actually found the definition that the site gave to be a pretty fair definition. I just disagreed with the analysis of the Mormon church. There's no question there are differences, all I'm trying to say is that Mormons have the same essential tenants as most Christian denominations. We believe in God, His son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. We believe in Faith in Christ, Repentance from sin through Christ's atonement, Baptism for the remission of sin, and the Gift of the Holy Ghost. We study from the Bible. We believe in the Resurrection of all mankind. Am I mistaken that these are the essentials of being classified a Christian denomination? There are certainly things that make Mormons unique, weird, or whatever adjective you want to apply to their differences from more "main stream" Christianity, but I really struggle to understand how Mormons aren't Christians. In the end, titles aren't really that important to me, but the general population categorizes people based on these titles.

    As it relates to politics, there are those that will not vote for Romney simply because someone has categorized him as a member of a non-Christian cult based on false or misleading information. It's in these situations that I find the labels and titles to be damaging to society, as someone who may otherwise be the best candidate gets shot down before he even begins based on incorrect information.

    Anyway, I don't think I need to go into that any more than I already have. From what I've read on this forum, you all recognize the negative consequences of placing so much weight on a candidate's religion.
     
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    Even though I know this is a playful question, I'll answer. Obviously not. It's just Sunday, and being regular church goers, discussions about the talks or sermons that were given at church are frequent occurrences in my home.
     
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    I'm not sure if this just TIC but I'll bite anyway. I've never once heard the word "cult" used to describe any other faith as part of any of Mormon doctrine or curriculum. The only time I've even heard the word mentioned in a formal church setting is when someone mentions that other denominations refer to the Mormon faith as a cult.
     
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    From what I've heard, some Mormons have called Christianity a "false religion", which is to also say it's a cult.

    But, hey...... :)
     
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    I've honestly never heard that before. My very basic definition of Christianity is a belief that Christ is our Redeemer. I'm not sure how a general belief system that Mormons subscribe to could be considered a cult by Mormons without including themselves in that group. Then again, if you don't consider Mormons Christians and didn't think Mormons believed themselves to be Christians, then I guess it's not that hard to conceptualize. That creates a more us and them perspective that allows for that kind of relationship. Maybe that idea comes from the belief that other Christian denominations do not have the complete gospel; which is a belief of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I still wouldn't classify any denomination as false, just incomplete. This is where I think people are free to disagree. Obviously Mormons believe we know something other faiths do not, otherwise we wouldn't have the Book of Mormon or some of the other "weird" practices we have (but isn't that the same as a Methodist and a Baptist; they believe different doctrines?). I think this is where your website was going with its analysis of the Mormon faith as a cult. We do things differently than other denominations, and in some cases drastically so, but this is where I think we just agree to disagree. I don't think it makes Mormons dangerous "cultists" that you have to protect your impressionable children from as some people would have you believe.

    We send missionaries door-to-door because we believe people will benefit from what we have and know. If someone chooses not to subscribe to that viewpoint, we don't think they're vile sinners damned to Hell. We'd like for them to know what we know and feel what we feel, but what denomination/faith doesn't? If they're happy in their faith we're happy that they're happy. We don't name call and label because they choose to believe differently than we do. Anyway, I digress...
     
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    I agree with this sentiment. Someone distinguishing between Christianity and Mormonism (or any other sect of Christianity) is splitting hairs, as far as I am concerned.

    I have accepted that our leaders are going to believe (or at least pretend to) in something that I will not. I don't need to dissect the craziness that is specifics underlying each of them to make myself feel better or to try to figure out which one is least crazy :)

    Ed O.
     
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    Christianity, as a whole, only believes in one Gospel.....that which is contained in the Holy Bible.... and "only" in the Holy Bible. Yes, there are different denominations, but essentially those differences are in worship style (open or charismatic, conservative, etc.). Each of them still only follow the precepts and instruction from that one Holy Bible.

    There is a scripture in the Bible which alludes to other practices:

     

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