The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Melo on ESPN radio said the owners' initial starting pt for the BRI was 35% to the players, and was chuckling. WTF. Maybe they really are not negotiating in good faith.
     
  2. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    It is pretty embarrassing you are unaware Singapore and Hong Kong are the best economies in Asia. Criticizing them is the fucking stupidest thing you've ever said possibly. Shut your mouth please, SlyPokerDog is just a charlatan.

    Also what specific strategies would you suggest for those two economies? Please, STFU already SlyPokerDog is talking out of his ass.
     
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  3. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Hunter Says CBA Deal Was Close


    It can be difficult to get an accurate read on the state of collective bargaining between the NBA and players union, particularly if one pays attention to the post-meeting rhetoric coming from both sides.

    After seven hours of negotiation on Monday, David Stern said the sides remain "very, very apart on all issues" as he cancelled two weeks of regular season games.

    Yet during an interview on WFAN on Wednesday, Billy Hunter indicated that an agreement between the owners and players had been nearing completion.

    "We thought we could live with the deal we were close to making," Hunter said.

    Via Henry Abbott, True Hoop (via Twitter)


    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/215991/Hunter_Says_CBA_Deal_Was_Close#ixzz1agREoEvG
     
  4. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I wonder how the owners felt?
     
  5. Spud147

    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    I work for a company that does a "pay for performance" system. In the last year they were able to declare dividends to their share holders of $300 million but when it came to our annual review they didn't give raises (just bonuses if you were eligible, which doesn't increase your base pay) because of the economy. We aren't in a union and none of us were thrilled about it but in the end I was so thankful to have a stable job, because the company had managed their finances so well. I realize how blessed I am right now!

    It's very difficult to have any sympathy for these players, it's one thing to ask for 53% of the profit but the players are asking for 53% if the revenue right off the top regardless of the expenses. Who could run a business like that?!? If I was an owner forced to accept that I wouldn't be serving meals on the planes and they'd be sleeping in Motel 6s from then on.
     
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  6. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Shit is starting to fly....wow

    KBergCBSKen Berger

    Stern: "It's time to make a deal. If we don't make it Tuesday , my gut ... is that we won't be playing on Christmas Day."



    TrueHoopHenry Abbott

    Stern is now killing Billy Hunter as a leader. Says union proposed 50/50, then Hunter was absent and silent as it failed with KG, Kobe etc.



    TrueHoopHenry Abbott

    Stern also says idea of 50/50 BRI split came a month ago from the union's "negotiator." http://player.radio.com/player/RadioPlayer.php?version=1.2.12495&station=62




    by AlexKennedyNBA
    Stern: We offered the union to look at our books. Union declined.



    TrueHoopHenry Abbott

    Stern says league has proposed cutting unperforming players and paying them over twice as much time.
     
  7. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    SeanDeveneySean Deveney





    Stern tells WFAN that the league is taking a revenue-sharing plan to committee next Wednesday, and to the board on Thursday ...
     
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    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    :lol:

    dude....stop....:biglaugh:
     
  9. huevonkiller

    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    I'm still waiting for you to set me straight, since you know so much about this subject. :lol:

    Yeah that's what I thought buddy. You made some BS post and avoided my question.
     
  10. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Stern: Deal By Tuesday Or No Games Through Christmas
    Oct 13, 2011 4:53 PM EDT


    During a Thursday interview on WFAN, David Stern indicated that Tuesday's bargaining session in front of a federal mediator will be momentous. If there is no agreement by then, Stern predicted a long lockout that will wipe out games at least through Christmas.

    "It’s time to make the deal. If we don’t make it Tuesday, my gut … is that we won’t be playing on Christmas Day," Stern said.

    However, Stern's tone was generally positive and his outlook about reaching an ultimate resolution to end the lockout seemed optimistic.

    Stern repeated his earlier assertions that the share of basketball-related income is no longer a major obstacle to completing the new CBA. The commissioner stated that deal points concerning league competitiveness, giving each team a realistic chance to win a championship, are the remaining items to be hammered out.

    Stern also indicated that it was the players union that invited the league to impose a punitive luxury tax in place of a hard cap or a flexible soft cap.

    The commissioner may be leaving the door open to playing a full 82-game schedule, in saying that two weeks of the regular season will certainly be lost for good if a deal is not reached soon. On Monday, Stern cancelled two weeks of games and was dismissive of the notion that those missed games could be made up. But Billy Hunter believes this would be possible through a compressed schedule and an extension of the regular season. Today Stern may have revealed some hope of that contingency plan should a new CBA be agreed upon quickly.

    Stern was emphatic in saying that the league has no furtive wish for a long lockout or the cancellation of any games as a strategy intended to bust the players union.

    Via WFAN


    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...y_Or_No_Games_Through_Christmas#ixzz1ahOgrRri
     
  11. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Sorry MM, just saw you posted this^
     
  12. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    No worries. I was tired of sloppy seconds with Mrs HCP, so I thought I'd post first anyway
     
  13. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    nobody wants to talk to you about anything ever...i enjoy making fun of you, just like everyone else, that is all you are good for

    oh and "yeah denny, get some brah"

    i, on the other hand, contribute posts with great depth and clarity, and am loved by all :lol:
     
  14. 3RA1N1AC

    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    back on topic, this lockout is making me very happy my niners are doing well, if they were 0-5 as usual, id probably be watching soccer :lol:
     
  15. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    "Bystanders then reported that his nose grew two feet longer and his trousers burst into flames."
     
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    huevonkiller Change (Deftones)

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    Yeah like I thought you're talking out of your ass and dodged my post. That is fine, because I love trash talking. I will always enjoy our little back and forth.

    Let me give you some advice, never ever criticize the fastest growing economy in the history of the world. The fucking stupidest opinion I have ever read was uttered in this thread. You do not know what Singapore has gone through and you don't know basic economic terminology. You can't be taken seriously because you have no valid position on this subject.


    Also going back to sports, I love pointing out how inferior your sports franchises are to mine. You can't even win there.
     
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  17. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Hahaha, funny


    I think it's a true statement though. The league does lose money when there are no games. I think he just wants the union to roll over and give them everything they want.
     
  18. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Preach!
     
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    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    speaking of "The fucking stupidest opinion I have ever read"....

    i guess thats not too hard when you change your favorite team to correspond with whomever is good at the time :biglaugh:

    sf giants current world champions
    49ers 5-0 in super bowls, 4-1 this season, first place

    been a fan since i can remember, through good times and bad

    who are your "teams"? whomever has the best players? whomever is doing the best that season? you have got to be fucking kidding right?
    just.....stop....:lol:
     
  20. RoyToy

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    Dwight Jaynes on 1080 on the NHL lockout

    Owners wanted 42%
    Players wanted 47%

    After missing a full year of games, the players settled on 39%

    The players need to wake up and realize they're going to get fucked if they don't accept the 50-50. That's the best offer they're going to get at this point and it will only get worse as the owners position gets stronger and stronger.
     

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