AARP Wants Its Members To Get Involved In Budget Deficit Game

No surprise here................

https://action.aarp.org/site/SPageNavigator/supercommittee_action_2011.html

 

I hate that organization and have for decades now.

The worst kind of special interest group.

Lies to their members. "you paid into SS and Medicare, you deserve to get back what you paid", "we can balance the budget on the backs of the welfare cheats and going after fraud, blah, blah"

Greedy and selfish beyond all reason. Refused to even talk about sensible and needed reforms. Non negotiable on the "you and your doctor should be to choose any and all treatments - regardless of costs, better cheaper options, lack of proof that treatment works - just because you want to."

For years has successfully "targeted" representatives who dared to speak truthfully about the programs fiscal issues, creating the 3rd rail in politics which is imo the number one reason we are in the mess we are today.

These AARP fucks are akin to the greedy union workers who were a main reason the us auto industry died a slow death. Abuse your power, never compromise, lie so much and so often you can't even see the truth when it is in front of your face and when the group finally realizes that the money isn't there, isn't under the cushions, is all gone - it is now too late to fix things without real, searing pain for all involved and many innocent bystanders to boot.

AARP - go to hell ASAP.

 

On the other hand, they are advocates for the elderly and they take that role very seriously. I think they give fairly sound advice for things like investments and healthcare information for the elderly and they get some darn good senior citizen discounts from auto insurance carriers... Maybe their politics is a bit suspect, but I think they do some good out there.

 

Unless it's an S2 mod.

 

I don't disagree with anything you say about their actions, but I don't really hold a grudge against them either. It's just an extremely effective special interest group without any counterbalance in our society. There's no special interest group that represents the needs of people 15 or 30 or 50. Those groups just haven't organized themselves as the elderly have.

You can hate them all you want, but the truth is they are just doing what's in their best interest. Just like the NRA or NOW or NAACP. It's just really unfortunate that their best interests aren't in the interests of the rest of us.

They have even more power because their voting bloc shows up in droves at the polls. You could just as easily hate the young for the overwhelming apathy that has fucked them over decade after decade.

*shrug* Part of me hopes that a coalition of millionaire/billionaire Bill Gates/Warren Buffet-types get together and decide to run their own media campaign to push people to vote for sensible centrist politicians. There's simply no group out there pushing rational compromise to counterbalance the extremists.

*sigh* It's really more of a wish.

 

Yes, obviously, I was talking about their politics, which defines their identity.

 

Which guys are you talking about?

 

Ah yes, so the lie of the "greatest generation" is exposed. They turned out to be nothing more than a "special interest" group who looks out for themselves first, second, third and last. Bankrupting the country? Who gives a fuck - we will all be dead by then.

Wait?

What legitimate source is claiming that NRA or NOW or NAACP is bankrupting the United States of America?

No one. That's who.

Of course there are lots of special interest groups. There are only a tiny, tiny number who are in the mix for being most responsible for creating / extending / pushing the policies that have already caused tremendous damage to the country and if not changed quickly (and with great pain at this time because it is so late in the game) could collapse the economy and lead to god knows what for the future.

All you are doing is describing the fatal flaw of Democracy. Pure Democracy is doomed to fail. This country has surrived for so long because it was founded as a Republic. Strong property rights, minority rights and severe checks on the power of the government are essential to prevent the majority from excessive abuse.

 

follow along. I tried to be brief. The policies that AARP has long advocated are leading to the bankrupting. Not them literally. Duh. They are not Congress. They only destroy the careers of every single Congressperson who has dared suggest the unsustainability of the policies that AARP supports. That exercise of power is what is bankrupting the US. Capiche?

 

It was a barfoism.

 

AARP continues full bore with their reckless and insane policies:

much more at the link

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/10/14/aarp-is-killing-entitlement-re/

 

They represent ALL Americans of every age.

Assuming you don't die young, of course.

When you retire, you will owe them a huge thank you for the many ways they prevented you from getting screwed.

 

Nor is any legitmate source claiming that AARP is bankrupting the United States of America.

It's an absurd notion.

 

A few things...

First, AARP is a special interest group. They believe they are the voice for the majority of people 50 and older (and maybe they are). They have gubers of money and use it to pursue their agenda like all special interest groups. So when scare mongers who oppose all medicare and/or social security reform put a bug in their ear that any reform will result in a loss of benefits for seniors, they use their power to fight it.

Second, it is sad that they simply listen and give in to scare mongers rather than looking into the facts for themselves or getting involved in the process of reasonable reform, but that is their right to be part of the problem and not the solution.

Now, having said that, recently they gave magazine space to the Speaker of the House to explain what they were trying to accomplish. They certainly didn't have to, but I thought it was a very fair thing to do.

Social Security and Medicare reform are necessary and, of course, the left will exploit it for their benefit as the right would exploit something the left was pushing for= reasonable or not.

 

While AARP plays their strongarm game to the hilt, while Grover Norquest continues on his bizarre gimmick politics substitutes for policy craziness, two ex-congressmen (one Dem) beg the super committie to tell both them to:

FUCK OFF you crazy assholes!!!!!!

I join in flipping those insane dipshits the bird, and hope the super committie grabs the brass ball on this one and lays the groundwork for tax reform that attempts to increase revenue and entitlement reform that cuts cost a bit now (yes, really) and slashes costs significantly down the road:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/16/news/economy/debt_committee_dorgan_gregg/?google_editors_picks=true

 

And for those that are reading the quotes and thinking, "they are crazy with this economic collapse talk" because you failed your math class or like so many of the retired folks so in love with their government checks and their subsidized medical care, who are in terminal denial of most basic facts (yes you Maris);

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/05/news/economy/national_debt_spending/index.htm?iid=EL

Cut defense, raise taxes, cut "waste and fraud". None of it. Not all of it would be close to enough to cutting the exloding deficit, let alone allow any paydown of the existing debt.

You can find quotes from economists from 10 years ago talking about Greece's problems and how it would all end badly if they didn't enact painful reforms. Greece never enacted any reforms and now they are done. The GDP has shrunk, will continue to shrink, and will cause average incomes in that county to end up far below (some say 40% to 50%) what it was and stay there for a long time. And there is nothing anybody to do to quickly fix it that is realistic politically.