When you look at Chris Paul's rookie year with the Hornets, (his individual performance) you have to ask yourself: "Will he become the next Oscar Robertson?" No, Chris Paul did not average 30 ppg like Oscar did in his rookie year, but his good all-around numbers certainly can become comparable to Oscar's numbers. Paul averaged 16 ppg, 5 rpg, and close to 8 apg. All of that and bringing the lowly Hornets from the bottom to the league, to a team that can compete. Everything was just fine until after the All-Star Break. That's when they started to go down, finishing with a 38-44 record, and not making the playoffs. However, if the Hornets did win over 40 games AND make the playoffs in a tough Western Conference, Paul arguably could have become MVP. In just in his rookie year. Not even Oscar managed to do that. Paul's numbers arent the same as Oscar's just yet, but they will be. And I think so.What do you think, guys? Is the comparison fair or not?
I don't like it. Robertson was much more a scorer than Chris Paul, a mentality I don't see Paul pickin up
Yeah I think they are two completely different players. I also think the only player in the league that can come close to the Big O's numbers is LeBron.
I think now that the Hornets have Tyson Chandler, Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons his rebounding numbers will come down to earth a little bit, not saying his rebounds are padded but those guys will grab more of them. I think a better comparison is Isiah Thomas who in his prime put up 21/11/4 and was a hellova a leader and they are both around the same size..etc..Seems to make more sense to me.
Like BCB said his rebounds will go down well actually probably stay the same because he improved on them.I can definetly see him averaging over 20 a game and over 10 assists. He's gonna be a special player and I think everyone is excited. To be honest though I think he's more of a Jason Kidd with better scoring.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (arya202 @ Jul 7 2006, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Like BCB said his rebounds will go down well actually probably stay the same because he improved on them.I can definetly see him averaging over 20 a game and over 10 assists. He's gonna be a special player and I think everyone is excited. To be honest though I think he's more of a Jason Kidd with better scoring.</div> Jason Kidd is a lazy comparison...'He's like Kidd but he can score...'....Well wouldn't it make more sense to compair him to Isiah Thomas since Thomas put up tons of assists, could score and they are about the same size?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 7 2006, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jason Kidd is a lazy comparison...'He's like Kidd but he can score...'....Well wouldn't it make more sense to compair him to Isiah Thomas since Thomas put up tons of assists, could score and they are about the same size?</div>No because Paul and Kidd are both great rebounders unlike Isiah. Would it make you feel better if I said he's Jason Kidd with Isiah's scoring? :happy0144:
I don't like this comparasin at all. The Big O was always more of a combo guard while Chris Paul is more of a pure PG. Also Chris Paul will never be a guy who averages 30 ppg. He's just not that much of a scorer. Also like BCB said NO is bringing in some rebounders so Chris Paul's rpg won't go up much more in his prime if they go up at all. I just really don't care for the comparasin. I like the Isiah Thomas one because I can definetly see Paul having seasons where he averages 20+ ppg and 10+ apg.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (arya202 @ Jul 7 2006, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No because Paul and Kidd are both great rebounders unlike Isiah. Would it make you feel better if I said he's Jason Kidd with Isiah's scoring? :happy0144:</div> Isiah averaged 4 rpg...which is right around what Paul will average....No way will Paul keep averaging 5 rebounds or improve his rebounding with all the new big players they got. The Hornets were a pretty lackluster rebounding team...David West is a poor rebounder for his size and being a PF..
Yeah I don't think 1 rpg should throw off an entire comparison. However, Paul will need some proven scorers around him to match Isiah or Kidd's assist numbers. I think Chris Paul is one of those great PG's that transcends different "types".
Chris Paul is NICE, one of my favorite players, But so was Oscar, Jordan and McHale. But in my mind Oscars' a top 4 player ever with MJ,Magic J, and Bird. All-NBA first team 8 years Second team 2. Oscar averaged a tripple double. Chris Paul definatly has a game to where he will be a great, but I don't see Paul averageing a tripple double. but Chris will be a top 50 player ever. I'd compare his game to a mix between Jason Kidd and Allen Iverson. I think if he stays healthy he'll be better than both.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dirk4prez32 @ Jul 7 2006, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul is NICE, one of my favorite players, But so was Oscar, Jordan and McHale. But in my mind Oscars' a top 4 player ever with MJ,Magic J, and Bird. All-NBA first team 8 years Second team 2. Oscar averaged a tripple double. Chris Paul definatly has a game to where he will be a great, but I don't see Paul averageing a tripple double. but Chris will be a top 50 player ever. I'd compare his game to a mix between Jason Kidd and Allen Iverson. I think if he stays healthy he'll be better than both.</div>Allen Iverson??? They have no similarities besides height at all. BTW you have a screwed up list for best all time. How can you have the Big O ahead of Kareem, Wilt, and Bill Russel???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 7 2006, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Allen Iverson??? They have no similarities besides height at all. BTW you have a screwed up list for best all time. How can you have the Big O ahead of Kareem, Wilt, and Bill Russel???</div>I think he's hugely underrated. Who else could average a triple double? Magic maybe could have, LeBron maybe? The Big O is higher than Kareem on my list. Not Wilt or Russel though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Road Blocker @ Jul 7 2006, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think he's hugely underrated. Who else could average a triple double? Magic maybe could have, LeBron maybe? The Big O is higher than Kareem on my list. Not Wilt or Russel though.</div>Yeah I know but don't forget he played in the 60's and there was a lot less competition but then again Wilt and Russel also played during that time so I can say the same for them.
Chris Paul is a younger version of Jason Kidd1- Not really much of a scorer but can definitely score2- Good playmakers, always make others better.3- Defense, both play good defense.4- Leadership, both Paul and Kidd are great leaders.They also have the height but then again so do many other point guards.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 7 2006, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul is a younger version of Jason Kidd1- Not really much of a scorer but can definitely score2- Good playmakers, always make others better.3- Defense, both play good defense.4- Leadership, both Paul and Kidd are great leaders.They also have the height but then again so do many other point guards.</div>Chris Paul is only like 6'0...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 7 2006, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul is only like 6'0...</div>I heard somewhere he was around 6'2 actually, anyways the point is they are very similar players. Even put up identical rebound and assists numbers in rookie season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 8 2006, 02:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Paul is a younger version of Jason Kidd1- Not really much of a scorer but can definitely score2- Good playmakers, always make others better.3- Defense, both play good defense.4- Leadership, both Paul and Kidd are great leaders.They also have the height but then again so do many other point guards.</div> Isiah Thomas is all those things...Jason Kidd is 4 inches taller than Chris Paul and is 30 pounds heavier.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 8 2006, 02:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I heard somewhere he was around 6'2 actually, anyways the point is they are very similar players. Even put up identical rebound and assists numbers in rookie season.</div> Why compare Kidd and Paul if Paul is a lot better on offense? It throws off the whole comparison. <span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">CAN I SAY IT ANYMORE CLEAR: CHRIS PAUL AND ISIAH THOMAS IS THE BEST COMPARISON</span>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Jul 7 2006, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isiah Thomas is all those things...Jason Kidd is 4 inches taller than Chris Paul and is 30 pounds heavier. Why compare Kidd and Paul if Paul is a lot better on offense? It throws off the whole comparison. <span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">CAN I SAY IT ANYMORE CLEAR: CHRIS PAUL AND ISIAH THOMAS IS THE BEST COMPARISON</span></div>Isiah Thomas is not a good defender :closedeyes: Alot better on offense? A whole 2 PPG more is alot better?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 8 2006, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isiah Thomas is not a good defender :closedeyes: Alot better on offense? A whole 2 PPG more is alot better?</div>Except, Paul was in his rookie year and he still had better scoring stats then Kidd. That tells you that he is definately better at scoring the basketball. I've awtahced him, and he is very unselfish. Alot of times he passed the ball instead of getting an opportunity for himself..
