Wondering what you think of a family who brings thier infant and toddler children with them. Children have now been raised in the US for the last 10-15 years. Are the children who are now 13-17 years old commiting a crime by being here? Are the children who are 18-21 years old committing a crime by being here? Is the answer to send these kids and young adults back to their "homeland?"
By definition though, wouldn't most any crime be more serious? 400,000 of them were here illegally. 55% of those were convicted criminals. That means 45% of them were just here illegally, which is also a crime. According to Homeland Security, 22% we officially convicted of more serious crimes. Crimes I would almost guarantee being on that list also are Domestic violence, armed robbery, grand theft, breaking and entering
Sounds like you looked up the answer and less than the half that committed crimes, committed more serious crimes. If any crime is more serious, than there are a lot of people in our community committing more serious crimes than being undocumented in the US . . . including past presidents, CEO of corprotations, police officers and the like. So if being here undocumented is such a terrible crime that results in deportation no matter what the circumstances, why are we letting people who do more serious crimes like DUII not have to do a day of jail?
Budget shortages? The BIG difference of people here in our own community and illegals is we, as American citizens, have certain rights. People who aren't citizens of the US don't share those same rights
Exactly, budget shortage. Yet here we are spending money we don't have fighting a battle we are losing to fight what you say is not even that big of a crime in your mind (any other crime is more serious according to you). We spend this money because it is a poltical hot topic and people who are out of a job or in a lower paying job quickly place blame on illegal immigration (see El Presidente ). So the US gov't spends money having hearing and shipping these people (some who have been here almost their entire lives) back and forth across the boarder when really we should be spending that money locking up people who are a real threat to the community.
I know I will donate my own money to build a wall so fucking tall along the boarder that no one could get over it. Still, things have to be done to correct the problem that already exists. Spending money on a problem is what has to be done sometimes
And if you build a wall just along the Mexico border do you think that is going to correct the problem? You will have to build a wall around the entire United States. From Washington along the Canadian border to Maine, down to Florida, down around and up back along Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona to California and back up to Washington. People who want to get in will get in. They will dig tunnels if you build a wall, they will get on boats and just go to a new drop off anywhere in the gulf, they'd go around Florida and back up. They'll go into the Pacific and up along California, Oregon and Washington. A wall along the border wont stop the human will to better their lives.
In Bend about twice a year the INS does a token raid, always on a restaurant for some reason. When they do, hundreds of hispanics disappear for 3-4 days and then everyone returns to work. It makes little difference to Bend in general. A few motel managers may have to clean rooms and a few contractors will have to pay legal wages to legal citizens for a job or two, but the average person is not impacted at all. Any job they were doing is done by a legal citizen until they return. When it happens we just say "Cinco De Mayo came early this year". Most of the illegals here work at the motels and in construction/landscaping
100% committed a federal crime. Under Title 8 Section 1325 of the U.S. Code, "Improper Entry by Alien," any citizen of any country other than the United States who: Enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers; or Eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers; or Attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact; has committed a federal crime. Violations are punishable by criminal fines and imprisonment for up to six months. Repeat offenses can bring up to two years in prison. Additional civil fines may be imposed at the discretion of immigration judges, but civil fines do not negate the criminal sanctions or nature of the offense. http://americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/isacrime.html
95% of the problem is Mexicans, and they come here only because it's easy as pie. I seriously doubt they'd go to any great effort to come here.
The majority of crimes committed in America never result in the apprehension of suspects, so it's likely most of the rest of them committed all kinds of crimes but got away with it.
