Murdered by a mob. Not exactly the best example of due process. I wonder how the WH will spin this one. They'll want to take credit, but there is enough video out there to show exactly what type of people are now in power in Libya.
yup. he was captured alive and executed begging for his life. (graphic video): http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a7d_1319127661
Yes, we should spend billions of dollars and force them to be a democracy. If they want to kill him who fucking cares. It's their country. I'm tired of being the world's babysitter.
They had 30 years to kill him. It wasn't until Team America got involved in March that things started to move. Is Libya in better shape now, in terms of government, than they were in March? Like it or not, this is Obama's baby, and trying to wash our hands of it is ridiculous. [video=youtube;sWS-FoXbjVI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI[/video] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI
America's involvement was mainly one of support and was pretty minimal. The revolution is part of the continued destabilization of the middle east.
I don't think that the US should impose our idea of "due process" on another country... unless it directly impacts our citizens or relatively directly our interests as a nation. For this reason, no matter how gruesome his death, I don't worry too much about Gaddafi's death. Of course, I am not sure that it was right for us to intervene/support his overthrow, either. He's done some bad things as the leader of that country--including some bad things against the USA--but when it comes to civil wars unless we have a lot to gain I don't think we should be involved. And, in my opinion, preventing deaths in a civil war is not enough of a reason to intervene on one side. Ed O.
I was speaking more toward the idea of a 'democracy' taking shape in Libya when I referenced "due process", which Obama mentioned today. If not for a more friendly US-government, what was the purpose of giving both military and financial support to the killing of thousands of Libyans, if an even more brutal and theological government takes over?
[video=youtube;fkf-UJlCWLw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkf-UJlCWLw&feature=fvsr[/video] We'll be fighting in the streets With our children at our feet And the morals that they worship will be gone And the men who spurred us on Sit in judgment of all wrong They decide and the shotgun sings the song I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around me Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday And I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again Change it had to come We knew it all along We were liberated from the fall that's all But the world looks just the same And history ain't changed 'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around me Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday And I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again No, no! I'll move myself and my family aside If we happen to be left half alive I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky For I know that the hypnotized never lie Do ya? There's nothing in the street Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Is now the parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around me Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again No, no! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Meet the new boss Same as the old boss
Hopefully, our own "leaders" here in America will ponder how their fates could be similar if they don't start representing their constituents in an honest and trustworthy manner. Arab Spring and OWS are the same revolt with two different names. Dictators of the world BEWARE!
Those weren't average Libyans. The mob torture murder was staged by NATO. Mussolini was killed the same way, while American soldiers waited a mile away in case the underground fighters didn't make it look real enough. Average Libyans liked Khaddafi, a strong anti-colonialist. Europe hated him, because he rebelled against European rule all his life. Without many months of NATO bombing, the tiny number of former jailbirds could not have overthrown him. Similarly, the US could easily be overthrown by former prison inhabitants if the US had no air force and the rest of the world provided hi-tech air cover.
And that place is now more fucked up than ever with thousands of innocent civilians dead. Up to this point at least, it seems like Iraq all over again. The US is like 80% of NATO too.
