Moammar Gadhafi dead [warning: graphic image]

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  1. Haakzilla

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    I thought Arafat died of cirrhosis? Or, if you prefer gossip, of liver disease caused by Hepatitis or AIDS?

    Other than that, you have a Democratic president trying to broker peace with a terrorist in 1995, a Democratic President trying to broker peace with a terrorist in 2009, and two instances where we chose to support the lesser of two evils in their fights against our enemies (Iran and the Soviet Union) but who later on betrayed us. Amazing that 3 of them met with untimely ends.
     
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    All 3 are unlikely rumors.

    Arafat was pronounced dead at 3:30 am UTC on 11 November at the age of 75. The exact cause of his illness is unknown.

    Rumors about cause of death

    Bassam Abu Sharif, Arafat's former advisor, claimed that the Mossad poisoned Arafat through his medications[124] by a lethal dose of thallium.[125] Another "senior Israeli physician" claimed in the article in Haaretz that it was "a classic case of food poisoning", probably caused by a meal eaten four hours before he fell ill that may have contained a toxin such as ricin, rather than a standard bacterial poisoning. However, in the same week as the report in Haaretz, The New York Times published a separate report, also based on access to Arafat's medical records, which claimed that it was highly unlikely that Arafat had food poisoning.[126][127] Both publications further speculated that the cause of death may have been an infection of an unknown nature or origin. However, rumors of Arafat's poisoning have persisted, especially in the Arab world. Al-Kurdi lamented the fact that Arafat's widow Suha had refused an autopsy, which would have answered many questions regarding cause of death.[128][129] In 2005, al-Kurdi called for the creation of an independent commission to carry out investigations concerning Arafat's suspicious death, stating, "any doctor would tell you that these are the symptoms of a poisoning".[128][130]

    John Loftus reported on ABC radio that Arafat had died of AIDS. According to Loftus, the CIA had knowledge of his condition, and convinced Israel not to assassinate him and wait for his inevitable death of the disease, since the subsequent widespread connotations of the disease with homosexuality would discredit him.[131] David Frum, a former speechwriter for U.S. President George W. Bush, speculated that Arafat had contracted AIDS as a result of homosexual affairs with his bodyguards, based on Ion Mihai Pacepa's book Red Horizons in which Pacepa reported that he had a conversation with a Romanian intelligence officer in which this officer claimed to have video recordings of Arafat engaging in homosexual activities.[131]

    In September 2005, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that French experts could not determine the cause of Arafat's death. The paper quoted an Israeli AIDS expert who claimed that Arafat bore all the symptoms of AIDS, a hypothesis later rejected in The New York Times.[126] On the issue of AIDS; a statement rejecting this suggestion was made in an article printed in numerous American news publications by an anonymous Israeli infectious disease expert; "An Israeli infectious disease specialist said he would have performed the test, if only to be thorough and to refute the rumors that surrounded the case. He said news accounts during Arafat's illness made him strongly suspect that Arafat had AIDS. But after studying the records, he said that was improbable, given the sudden onset of the intestinal troubles." This same article notes that it is also highly unlikely that Yasser Arafat died from poisoning. The article further states that Yasser Arafat died from a stroke linked to an unknown infection which could have possibly been standard food poisoning, which could kill an elderly man already in a general sick condition, which had been caused from living under Israeli siege for years in his Ramallah compound.[132][133]

    According to Israel Radio, "A former Palestinian intelligence officer, attorney Fahmi Shabana, says that Yasser Arafat's political rivals were responsible for his death, and that he was poisoned with polonium. Shabana, who took part in the investigation into Arafat's death in a French hospital in 2004, said that several months after his death, the same cell murdered the head of military intelligence in Gaza, General Musa Arafat, a relative of the PLO leader, in order to prevent a blood feud. The lawyer called on Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas to reopen the investigation into Arafat's death."


    Poison seems the most likely cause.
     
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    I was waiting for you to chime in. Much more reserved than I would've expected.
     
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    There's an actual Wikipedia page on the origin of Maris' tin foil hat.
     
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    I lost one of my best friends from college on Pan Am Flight 103, so I'm a bit biased. I hope the rebels hand over the fucker who conned Scotland into releasing him.
     
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    Israel began saying that Arafat was worthless and shouldn't be kept alive. Then Israel kept Arafat in a practical house arrest the last year of his life, a world leader ignored by the world media. Suddenly he got a rare disease and died. Yeah right.
     
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    hepatitis and AIDS are rare diseases?

    75 y/o men "suddenly" get lots of fatal things.

    "World Leader," huh?
     
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    He had neither.
     

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