Keep Roy, Add Oden, Add MLE = Tax Pain

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    But Waive Roy, Add Oden, Add MLE = manageable taxes.

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    after reading that great Stortyeller summary I don't think there is any way the Blazers keep Roy, just can't see it
     
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    Waive Roy, Add Oden, Use MLE (Ideally on back-up 4/5)


    I don't think Roy's bounce back upside is high enough to risk losing a chance on seeing what Oden can still give us. He felt post micro that his right knee was stronger than ever and I just hope it's the same for the left.

    Worst case, we sign Oden to the 11 mil QO, gets injured again and signs elsewhere. Leaves us with near 23 mil in cap space in 2012-2013 to rebuild.
     
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    Waiving Roy is the only smart move if the franchise is serious about winning at some point
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    shitty thing is, now only the lakers and the knicks can actually afford to pay heavy taxes with their revenues, and still make a profit
     
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    Blame the owners, who are winning these changes.
     
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    Blame the players, who want guaranteed contracts. See? This is a fun game.
     
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    Based on what the Rangers got, I wouldn't be surprised if DAL and CHI were in the same range.
     
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    Good thing PA doesn't care about profit, but winning
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    If Allen weren't pretty clearly in the "hard-line" camp in the CBA negotiations I'd believe you, instead I think it's pretty clear he's never going back to the 100+ million payroll days.
     
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    I think if this team is advancing in the playoffs and could have a legit chance at contending for a title as in the 2000 roster days Allen would consider paying a mega tax for one or two seasons for a better chance at a title. If we could add a Scottie Pippen or Steve Smith type of overpaid talent he would be tempted to possibly try it. He has the wealth to consider this option, whereas 85%+ of the owners wouldn't have the wealth to ever begin to consider paying a 300% luxury tax.
     
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    Personally, I don't think anything is clear when it comes to PA. I do get what you are saying with the reports of his invlovement during negotiations, but weighing out his involvement in these labor talks vs, watching his words and actions over the years:

    I don't beleive PA even knows what he is going to do next and that if he thought he could win a championship, he would spend 100+ million in payroll now and for the next 5 years.
     
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    As usual an excellent analysis by Storyteller. My take on the Blazer situation after reading his article is the team needs to choose between keeping Roy or re-signing Oden. Otherwise this team is paying ~$20million plus in luxury tax next season and I don't see any way Paul Allen is willing to foot that bill for a roster expected to be a borderline playoff team with a first round exit.

    So who should it be, Oden or Roy? I clearly think we have to go with Oden but will be very sad to see Roy's brief amazing Blazer career end in this fashion.
     
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    Unless he sees the roster differently, which he does.
     
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    Interseting question: would you rather have a ultra rich myopic and essentric owner or a prudent owner who is a solid and good business person but won't go over the salary cap?

    Both will probably produce the same results (playoff team with only a cinderellla chance at more), but I think PA gives a puncher's chance at a title.
     
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    "B" for booooring.
     
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    Why do you want a good business person to run the Blazers? So he can be more profitable and make more money off us fans?

    A Phoenix Suns type of owner doesn't give us a better chance at making a title run. Do you all really want someone who trades away Luol Deng and Rajon Rondo for cash?
     

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