The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    The issue is that the players last deal, heck last two deals, were so good for them, they have a hard time giving it all up
     
  2. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    The economy is so different now compared to last time! Both side have to realize this right?
     
  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    The owners realize it. The players either don't, or more likely don't care because it's their money that is being lost
     
  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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  5. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    I assume the escrow is just a way to ensure that BRI is split accurately. I guess it would kind of suck if you are a player, but it's money that you will get back if BRI is accounted for accurately. To be equal though, shouldn't the owners have to put some money in escrow too?
     
  6. Blaze01

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    Players are under the illusion that if the decertify that they will win, and that is not necessarily the case....

    and instead of 1 year sitting out, it could be 2 years, and they would have to win EVERY single court battle to get there...and there wouldn't likely be resolution until that last battle was fought in the courts....

    They are currently, and even in this latest deal will be, among the highest compensated athletes in professional sports....They are going to claim unfairness on the owners part? good luck with that, and they don't even have the majority of fan support\sympathy either....

    Decertifying is a nuclear option that will basically eliminate all prior bargaining points won by the players union, there is no guarante they will get most or any of those back...the only winners are the all star level players and thier agents...the average NBA player will lose....
     
  7. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Pierce and KG are acting like dictators.

    Just more reasons to hate these two over-the-hill, soon-to-be-irrelevant basketball players.
     
  8. SlyPokerDog

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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski

    No meeting finalized, but sides were working toward session in NY before time runs out Wednesday on NBA's ultimatum for union to take deal.
     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    Agent to KG:

    "DECERTIFICATION IS POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I find it laughable that two guys with almost zero stake in the current CBA fight (KG and Pierce have already earned 95%+ of all the money they're ever going to earn) are the most vocal and combative of the players. The lose almost nothing at all if the season gets torpedoed, but get to come off as tough guys who wouldn't budge.
     
  11. PapaG

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    Excellent point. Notice the relative silence from the Durants, Griffins, Aldridges, and Loves of the NBA.
     
  12. MickZagger

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    Love's back at UCLA getting his edumacation.

    I'm betting Jared Sullinger's glad he didn't put his name in the draft, while I'm sure guys like Kemba would be stoked about playing in a game that matter this week.
     
  13. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    The NBA and NBPA are seriously discussing setting up a meeting for Tuesday to try and reach agreement on a labor deal, league source tells Y
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    @NBA_Labor Under NBA proposal, taxpayers will have extremely limited free agent opportunities.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    No meeting finalized, but sides were working toward session in NY before time runs out Wednesday on NBA's ultimatum for union to take deal.
     
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    Sounds like Steve Blake is pushing for support to vote on the deal

    Kobe wants the sides to meet again as the sides are too close

    all form Woj's twitter
     
  17. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    While the NBA Players Association's executive committee is staunchly against accepting the league's recent "ultimatum" offer, it is not a certainty that the player reps who will meet with them Tuesday will feel the same way, a source close to the situation told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard on Monday.

    The source said some of the reps may favor decertification while others may want to accept the deal.

    "I don't think there's going to be a consensus," the source said. "And that would be a problem."

    With a Wednesday deadline looming to accept the league's latest labor proposal, player representatives from all 30 teams have been summoned by the union to New York for the mandatory meeting to update them on negotiations, sources have told ESPN.com.

    Union sources have said the executive board remains unwilling to present that offer to the union's estimated 450 members for a vote and plans to make that stance clear to team player reps at the meeting.

    Sources told ESPN.com that union leaders have not budged from the view that the NBA's offer is "unacceptable," just as NBPA president Derek Fisher described it in the wee hours of Sunday morning once Saturday's marathon bargaining session finally ended.

    On Monday, meanwhile, sources say that the players and agents backing the decertification of the union have scheduled another conference call to follow the two conference calls -- each with at least 50 players dialed in -- that took place last week.

    The Players Association's executive board was also set to conduct a conference call Monday to discuss its options before Tuesday's meeting, Spurs forward Matt Bonner, a committee member, told the San Antonio Express-News.

    No new negotiations are scheduled after the parties spent nearly nine hours negotiating under the auspices of federal mediator George Cohen. NBA commissioner David Stern emerged from those talks saying that the union had until the end of business Wednesday to take a deal that the league says will pay players up to 51 percent of annual basketball related income or prepare to brace itself to receive an offer that tops out at 47 percent of BRI and features the more restrictive flex cap that the players emphatically shot down in June.

    "We hope that this juxtaposition will cause the union to assess its position and accept the deal," Stern said at a news conference early Sunday morning.

    There is no evidence in circulation yet to suggest that more than a handful of rank-and-file players are lobbying the union to put Saturday's offer from the owners to a vote.

    Stern has already canceled the entire month of November -- which means that an entire new schedule will have to be written up when the lockout is lifted -- and has said that there is no longer sufficient time left on the calendar to stage an entire 82-game regular season.

    Information from ESPN.com senior writer Marc Stein and The Associated Press was used in this report.
     
  18. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    lol Blakey! Maybe my hate for him was unfounded.
     
  19. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Oh Snap!

    Sam_Amick

    So I called two agents today who represent a combined 19 players. They said that all 19 want the players to take the NBA's deal.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Kevin Martin knows whats up. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...vin.martin.nba.labor/index.html#ixzz1d466Px3p

     

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